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[OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart

Posted by Hillel Hoffmann 
[OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.usb.temple.edu)
Date: May 06, 2005 04:01PM

New Year's resolutions:

1) I will remember not to leave the toilet seat up.
2) I will not buy more than one CD per week.
3) I will not post any more treacly, melodramatic, overlong messages about Cornell lacrosse on eLynah.

OK, so two out of three ain't bad.

It's senior night, and a last-minute change of plans is gonna keep me from going to the game. Bollocks. Although a win tonight would help solidify Cornell's chances for a home playoff game, maybe this is one time to focus on big-picture stuff intead of the specifics of tonight's game. I hope that others will turn out to send off an amazing group of seniors. (Did anyone notice how this morning's article in the Sun about Cornell's top 25 senior athletes included four guys on the lacrosse team?) Best to let the facts speak for themselves:

Cornell's seniors won three consecutive Ivy titles (first time for Cornell since 1980-83).

In their final season, they led Cornell to the first undefeated season in Ivy League play by any team since 2001.

They qualified for the NCAA tournament two consecutive years (first time for Cornell since 1987-88) and three times in four years (first time for Cornell since 1987-89).

They actually won a few NCAA playoff games (Cornell's first playoff wins since 1988) and made it to the Elite Eight twice (losing by one goal each time) -- this is a work in progress.

They broke Princeton's 10-season consecutive Ivy title streak.

They were the first Ivy team to beat Princeton in consecutive years since Yale did it in the late 1980s.

They beat Syracuse twice in four years. (Fifth-year senior Ian Rosenberger, who was red-shirted in the 2003 season, beat Syracuse three times.)

And, of course, they overcame a lot... [media.cornellsun.com]
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: ugarte (---.cisco.com)
Date: May 06, 2005 04:18PM

Do not make 3 a recurring resolution. I appreciate the long posts about lax and I'm sure that I'm not the only one.

 
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: pfibiger (---.dfafunds.com)
Date: May 06, 2005 04:21PM

I wholeheartedly agree. Keep 'em coming (let's hope you get to post a few more!).

 
___________________________
Phil Fibiger '01
[www.fibiger.org]
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 04:27PM

[Q]ugarte Wrote: Do not make 3 a recurring resolution. I appreciate the long posts about lax and I'm sure that I'm not the only one.[/q]Until Ari overcomes his Minnesota blues, no one else is writing of note on Cornell's national sports of Canada.
 
Live video link
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 05:39PM

There's a live video link for the Hobart game on the Cornell athletics main page. Please don't post this on LaxPower and the like.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 06:57PM

Anyone have any luck with the video yet? The audio has started, but the video still tells me 'an error occurred'. Gonna have another fiasco like the Princeton game?
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:03PM

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

Anyone have any luck with the video yet? The audio has started, but the video still tells me 'an error occurred'. Gonna have another fiasco like the Princeton game?[/q]
I just get a box that pops up saying "Windows Media Player cannot connect to the server. The server name might not be correct, the server might not be available, or your proxy settings might not be correct."

Very frustrating. No audio using the streaming video connection, just the box.



 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:17PM

Hobart opens up the scoring, almost 10 minutes in, 1-0 Hobart
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:23PM

Are you listening or watching?

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:25PM

listening, no video yet, I keep trying. I send feedback about their bull, but if they cared they wouldn't keep screwing us over repeatedly

End of the 1st, 1-0 (what is this, hockey? ;) )
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:29PM

Sounds like Valenti is playing out of his mind. Can't last.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:29PM

2-0 Hobart
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:29PM

Lotta turnovers both ways, not a ton of shots, that's the feeling I'm getting...

Cornell gets the faceoff
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:33PM

Haswell from Nee! 4:31 into the 2nd quarter

2-1 Statesmen

then Greenhalgh into the empty cage!! 2-2!! Hobart won the faceoff, Greenhalgh stole it back and fired it from afar
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:40PM

Nee from Belisle on the transition! 3-2 Red! 5:17 remaining in the 1st half

Cornell wins the faceoff
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:40PM

This Cornell team is simply amazing at fast-break transitions.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:41PM

wish I could see it for myself ;) :-P
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:42PM

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

wish I could see it for myself [/q]
You're not alone. It sure was fun to watch in Providence.



 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:42PM

Redd!!! (with a rocket, naturally ;) )

4-2 Cornell
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 07:47PM

Hobart runs out of time with the ball, 4-2 Red at the half
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:00PM

under way in the 2nd half and Clayton drives one home just :54 in!

5-2 Cornell, and the Red win the faceoff again
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:01PM

Hobart responds in transition, ending Cornell's 5 goal run, 5-3 Cornell
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2005 08:02PM by DeltaOne81.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:05PM

and there's Boloukus! :) 6-3 Red, 26th of the season for Joe

Hobart takes the faceoff
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:11PM

McMonagle solid, a few saves there, Cornell get possession

5:00 left in the 3rd quarter
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:12PM

Rosenberger from Greenhalgh! 7-3 Cornell

"that was beautiful lacrosse, motion, motion, motion, score"

Greenhalgh moves to solo possession of 5th overall in career points

Cornell gets the first man-up of the game
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2005 08:13PM by DeltaOne81.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:15PM

Hobart answers, 7-4, 2:46 left in the 3rd
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:21PM

Boloukus! on the man up, 8-4 Red

end of the 3rd, Cornell will start the 4th with the ball
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:24PM

Given that the game is being played under the lights, I'm impressed by the color and fidelity of the video.

[Edit] Ignore post. Mistakenly linked to a rerun of Baywatch. Still no Cornell game on video.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2005 08:27PM by billhoward.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:28PM

bill you tease ;)

Casey Lewis! 9-4 Cornell
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:29PM

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

Given that the game is being played under the lights, I'm impressed by the color and fidelity of the video.

Ignore post. Mistakenly linked to a rerun of Baywatch. Still no Cornell game on video.

Edited 1 times. Last edit at 05/06/05 08:27PM by billhoward.[/q]

Sheesh. You had me reaching for the hammer and pliers. help

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:32PM

Hobart won't go away, 9-5 now

Cornell wins the faceoff, 8:10 remaining
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:34PM

Expecting to see a more leisurely pace at this point.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:37PM

Casey Lewis to Greenhalgh! 10-5 Cornell advantage

Cornell definitely using clock when they get possession, but Greenhalgh open on that one

Cornell gets possession on a push, 6:00 left
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:41PM

McMonagle with another save as we hit the 3 minute mark, timeout Cornell with 2:55 left
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:43PM

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote: bill you tease ... Casey Lewis! 9-4 Cornell[/q]But imagine how bad the opposite would be: only being able to get an audio feed of Baywatch.

 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:44PM

2 minutes left as Hobart gets their first man-up opportunity
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:44PM

I was just about to write that we were playing a penalty-free game.

Miller in goal for the wrap-up.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:45PM

Announcers just remarked they're doing a Webcast as well as radio and audio feed. Somebody ought to IM them, or something.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:45PM

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

Announcers just remarked they're doing a Webcast as well as radio and audio feed. Somebody ought to IM them, or something. [/q]
Is it possible there are so many people tuned in from the dorms that there's no room for the rest of us?



 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:46PM

Hobart can't convert on the man-up, 1 minute left as Cornell gets the ball back
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:47PM

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:
Is it possible there are so many people tuned in from the dorms that there's no room for the rest of us?[/q]
Anyone in the dorms is sleeping off slope day. No way I believe it.

And that's the game! 10-5

Cornell finishes the season with a convincing with over Hobart and an 8 game win streak
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Doug Dickerson (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: May 06, 2005 08:47PM

I don't believe that there are many people even in the dorms as today
was springfest.
Fred, you beat me about springfest.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2005 08:48PM by Doug Dickerson.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 06, 2005 09:01PM

Hobart announcers: "Cornell the most complete package we've seen this year--looking at both offense and defense."

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Saturday Scores
Posted by: Tom Pasniewski 98 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 07, 2005 04:34PM

Some early finals of note:

Albany 16, Stony Brook 7

Ohio State 8, Army 7 uhoh

Princeton 13, Brown 4
 
Re: [OT Lax] Saturday Scores
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 07, 2005 04:54PM

[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:

Some early finals of note:

Albany 16, Stony Brook 7

Ohio State 8, Army 7

Princeton 13, Brown 4[/q]
UMass beat Rutgers 13-7 and Hopkins is cruising over Loyola in the fourth.



 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
NCAA selection show
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:12PM

Last-minute reminder: NCAA selection show tonight at 9:30 on ESPN News.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: NCAA selection show
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:40PM

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

Last-minute reminder: NCAA selection show tonight at 9:30 on ESPN News.[/q]
Except it's not, can anyone explain?
 
Re: NCAA selection show
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:44PM

[Q]DeltaOne81 Wrote:

Al DeFlorio Wrote:

Last-minute reminder: NCAA selection show tonight at 9:30 on ESPN News.[/Q]
Except it's not, can anyone explain?[/q]
I thought it was gonna be in between 9:30 and 10:00 p.m.

If someone finds out, please post the bracket. At the moment in my household, ABC programming has me "Desperate Housewhipped."
 
Re: NCAA Selection Show
Posted by: Alyssa '05 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:44PM

it's on CSTV right now
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2005 09:45PM by Alyssa '05.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:48PM

That's the women's and DII and DIII, I believe.

Div I just came on ESPN News
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:51PM

CSTV was definitely the Men's D-I too
 
Pairings
Posted by: JT (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:53PM

What are the pairings? Can anyone post them? help help
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:54PM

So far two brackets in:

Marist at Johns Hopkins
Syracuse at Massachusetts

Albany at Virginia
Delaware at Navy

VERY interesting...looking like Army for us?
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:54PM

We will be coming up in a moment ... my guess is that Maryland gets the 6 seed, Cornell gets #7.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:55PM

By the way, I'm getting this info from the ESPN News online live feed -- a link is available here: [sports.espn.go.com]
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:56PM

Whoa! Curveball:

The next bracket announced was...

Penn State at Maryland
Army at Georgetown
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:57PM

We play @ #7 Towson.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:58PM

And here is Cornell's bracket. Oh my god.

Fairfield at Duke
Cornell AT Towson

Yes, Cornell AT Towson. Did I hear that right?
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: scoop85 (---.hvc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 09:58PM

Well, I forgot the #3 seed was left ... and we are UNSEEDED and have to travel to TOWNSON!!!! What a crock!

And we thought getting sent to Minnesota was a hose job; this is pathetic.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:01PM

I can't believe Dartmouth didn't get an at-large bid.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: JT (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:03PM

Does that mean we play AT duke in the 2ndround?
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:03PM

It's upsetting that Cornell has to travel.

But it could be worse. I'd rather play at Towson than host Syracuse.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: dadeo (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:03PM

no that means we play duke at princeton in the qf's if we beat towson
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:04PM

[Q]JT Wrote:

Does that mean we play AT duke in the 2ndround?[/q]

2nd round is neutral site, no?

I think we were headed to Princeton if we win.

 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:05PM

[Q]JT Wrote:

Does that mean we play AT duke in the 2ndround?[/q]
No, the quarterfinals are played at two neutral sites: Princeton and Johns Hopkins. The audio feed didn't reveal where CU's bracket would be sending its winners, but I'd guess Princeton.

 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:06PM

[Q]Hillel Hoffmann Wrote:

JT Wrote:

Does that mean we play AT duke in the 2ndround?[/Q]
No, the quarterfinals are played at two neutral sites: Princeton and Johns Hopkins. The audio feed didn't reveal where CU's bracket would be sending its winners, but I'd guess Princeton.

[/q]
Yeah, we'd go to Princeton. The video showed that.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:07PM

What it shows is they followed the criteria--flawed though it may be--just as they laid it out. Dartmouth's RPI and strength-of-schedule were just too low.

 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:10PM

Okay, but what about the quality wins? Which is either the *only* criteria, or the primary criteria? How did they match up there, how did we?
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Hillel Hoffmann (---.chesnh01.pa.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:11PM

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

What it shows is they followed the criteria--flawed though it may be--just as they laid it out. Dartmouth's RPI and strength-of-schedule were just too low.[/q]
Yeah. Although those two criteria (RPI and SOS) are allegedly tertiary and secondary, right? I figured that Dartmouth's wins against Maryland, Notre Dame, etc. would get them in the tourney, and the latter stuff would keep 'em unseeded.
 
I would hate...
Posted by: MNetravali (---.nc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:17PM

... to be a Towson player. Imagine getting a #7 seed and having to face the #3 team in the country. That's gotta hurt! I wonder if they'll drive up watch us play Duke in round 2.

As an side, I was watching us beat Harvard in the ECAC title game at a sports bar in Chapel Hill, NC and Coach Tambroni was there enjoying the game aa few tables away. How funny seeing him there, but nice to see him supporting the icers.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:32PM

I'm confused. Towson doesn't even have any quality wins. They have LOSSES to three teams in the top 5 RPI (Hopkins, UVA, UMD) and one in the top 15 (Delaware). I'm genuinely expecting to hear that this was a typo or something.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Chris 02 (---.icsincorporated.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:34PM


seed    team           poll  laxpower comp. ranking
  1 Johns Hopkins       1           1
  2 Duke                2           2 
  3 Maryland            6           5
  4 Virginia            5           3
  5 (AQ) Navy           4           10
  6 Georgetown          7           11
  7 (AQ) Towson        11           12
  8 Massachusetts       8           8
  9 Syracuse            9           9
 10 (AQ) Cornell        3           4          <------------
 11 Army               10           21
 12 Delaware           16           18 
 13 (AQ) Albany        17           17
 14 Penn State         15           24
 15 (AQ) Fairfield     17           28
 16 (AQ) Marist       unk.          45
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:37PM

[Q]Chris 02 Wrote:

seed team poll laxpower comp. ranking
1 Johns Hopkins 1 1
2 Duke 2 2
3 Maryland 6 5
4 Virginia 5 3
5 (AQ) Navy 4 10
6 Georgetown 7 11
7 (AQ) Towson 11 12
8 Massachusetts 8 8
9 Syracuse 9 9
10 (AQ) Cornell 3 4 <------------
11 Army 10 21
12 Delaware 16 18
13 (AQ) Albany 17 17
14 Penn State 15 24
15 (AQ) Fairfield 17 28
16 (AQ) Marist unk. 45[/q]
Neither of these "rankings" are part of the NCAA's criteria. Check RPI and strength-of-schedule rankings--which are part of the NCAA criteria--here:

[www.insidelacrosse.com]



 
___________________________
Al DeFlorio '65
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: peterg (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:40PM

[Q]jmh30 Wrote:

I'm confused. Towson doesn't even have any quality wins. They have LOSSES to three teams in the top 5 RPI (Hopkins, UVA, UMD) and one in the top 15 (Delaware). I'm genuinely expecting to hear that this was a typo or something.[/q]

It does not appear that Towson has any top 15 quality wins. Very interesting seeding.

[216.50.65.17]
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: DeltaOne81 (---.bos.east.verizon.net)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:47PM

Towson beat #15 and #16 as far as I can see (Delaware and Hofstra), but it doesn't seem those would overcome #6 and #14 (Syracuse and N.D.), now does it?

*This*, ladies and gentlemen, is why a system like PWR, flawed as it may be, beats back room smoke and mirror hands down, any day. I really think, as a friend of mine has said, the "Princeton was no good this year, so the Ivies must suck" factor explains this.

You can say they went on RPI, but then how do you explain Dartmouth's royal screw job? #13 in RPI, clearly #13 or better in quality wins, and no bid. It's the good old boys in the backroom giving it to their friends Syracuse and the southern crowd. You can use whatever logic you want, they do what they want.

To be fair, we maybe didn't deserve a home game last year, so we could say that it evens out, but doing things wrong twice don't make it fair.
 
Re: [OT Lax] Cornell lacrosse vs. Hobart
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.res.rr.com)
Date: May 08, 2005 10:51PM

Rich and I have come to the conclusion that our bracket is winnable, and therefore we shouldn't worry about it. :-D
 
Re: [OT Lax] Screw BU, Boston Globe too!
Posted by: Killer (---.c3-0.nat-ubr6.sbo-nat.ma.cable.rcn.co)
Date: May 09, 2005 12:26AM

Glad I finally got online and got the real results of the game. I picked up the Globe on Saturday morning, anxiously looked for the lax scores, and there it was:

Hobart 5 - Cornell 1 (with no write-up)

I couldn't believe it. How could our boys have been so outplayed that they scored only 1 goal?

Whew. What relief to come here and get the real story.

But still, we're unseeded and have to go to Towson? Maybe the committee saw the 5-1 score and believed it as well. Then again, maybe #7 is in for a little comeuppance.

LGR!!
 

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