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Last junior with 100 points

Posted by billhoward 
Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 14, 2005 05:32PM

With 33 points this year (just over 1 point per game) and two to six games remaining, Matt Moulson is at 91 career points. How long has it been since a junior had 100 points for Cornell?

[edit correction] 37 points this year after the two Clarkson games plus 58 his first two seasons = 95 points
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2005 07:49PM by billhoward.
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: DisplacedCornellian (---.hr.hr.cox.net)
Date: March 14, 2005 05:35PM

See Vesce, Ryan (who tallied 102 points through his junior year, 128 total).

So to answer your question...not that long ago nut


Edit: actually, depending on where you look, his numbers for his senior year vary. USCHO has him tallying 10 goals and 16 assists in 03-04, while the elynah database has him at 10 goals and 14 assists. Anyone know which one is accurate?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2005 05:38PM by DisplacedCornellian.
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 14, 2005 05:48PM

Right under my nose. Going back before that, I'm trying to recall how many people hit 100 in their first three years in the Schafer era. Stephen Bâby got to about 90 (?) in three years. Am I missing a table in TBRW that lists most points cumulative after two and three years of play? There' just about everything else there.
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: CowbellGuy (Moderator)
Date: March 14, 2005 05:57PM

They are both correct now. 16 assists was the correct number though. Two assists missing from a Harvard game (a primary and secondary) which makes me think it was changed after I'd done it or something. Anyway, they match now. Thanks.

 
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Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: March 14, 2005 06:14PM

USCHO and collegehockeystats.net have Moulson with 37 points right now (21g, 16a) which would give him 95 career. Thus even closer to 100 by junior year (and in range of a 40 point season).
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Avash (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 14, 2005 06:15PM

Before Ryan Vesce did it in 2003, I believe the last Cornell player to reach 100 points during his junior year was Joe Nieuwendyk (who scored his 100th point very early in his junior season. It may have been the first game, although I'm not positive).
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: CowbellGuy (Moderator)
Date: March 14, 2005 06:21PM

This weekend's box scores are in the ELynah DB now and it agrees (52-43-95 carreer). :-D

 
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Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Trotsky (---.cust-rtr.swbell.net)
Date: March 14, 2005 06:45PM

Lance Nethery had 206 points after his junior year. twitch
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: March 14, 2005 07:40PM

[q] This weekend's box scores are in the ELynah DB now and it agrees (52-43-95 carreer).[/q]I saw 30 GP and assumed you'd already done it. Didn't occur to me that the GP stat gets incremented when the game result goes in which may be before the box score (thus goals, etc.) goes in.
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 14, 2005 08:02PM

Looking at other stats: Moulson is pretty good on power plays (4 + 6 + 11 YTD = 21), but the career record (NCAA) is otherworldly: Tom Ross, Michigan State 72PPG 1972-76. Nobody else is above the low 50s and nobody has scored more than 40 career since 1992-96. Makes you suspect (?) the overall PP average must be down from a generation ago.
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 14, 2005 10:52PM

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
Makes you suspect (?) the overall PP average must be down from a generation ago. [/q]

Or there were more opportunities. Or the first pp line skated more. Or somebody was padding his stats. ;-)
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: March 15, 2005 08:13AM

When's the last time we scored 10 goals or more in a game? In Nethery's day it was pretty damn common.
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: March 15, 2005 08:49AM

[Q]Jeff Hopkins '82 Wrote:

When's the last time we scored 10 goals or more in a game? In Nethery's day it was pretty damn common.[/q]
IIRC, it was one of every three games during one of his seasons.



 
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Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: March 15, 2005 08:57AM

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

We'll still have to speculate how much the higher scoring games of yore were because the game was more wide-open and how much it was because the bottom half of the league was really bad. Actually some of that could be determined by margin of victory (or percentage MOV since 10-9 is a way different margin than 2-1).
[/q]
Take the 1978 ECAC final four--a Nethery-era tournament:

Semis:

UNH 10, Cornell 9 (2OT--how did they get through the first OT without a goal?)
BU 7, Clarkson 6

Consolation:

Cornell 5, Clarkson 4

Championship:

BU 8, UNH 6

That's an average of nearly 14 goals per game.



 
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Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: ursusminor (---.nrl.navy.mil)
Date: March 15, 2005 09:25AM

Al,

Wasn't that 1977?
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: schoaff (---.atl.megapath.net)
Date: March 15, 2005 09:26AM

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:


Take the 1978 ECAC final four--a Nethery-era tournament:

Semis:

UNH 10, Cornell 9 (2OT--how did they get through the first OT without a goal?)
BU 7, Clarkson 6

Consolation:

Cornell 5, Clarkson 4

Championship:

BU 8, UNH 6

That's an average of nearly 14 goals per game.[/q]

Almost makes you wonder if they had 2 or 3 pucks on the ice instead of our solitary disc.

:-)
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: March 15, 2005 09:30AM

[Q]ursaminor Wrote:

Al,

Wasn't that 1977?[/q]
Yep. Brain fart.



 
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Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Avash (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 15, 2005 06:53PM

[Q]Jeff Hopkins '82 Wrote:

When's the last time we scored 10 goals or more in a game? In Nethery's day it was pretty damn common.[/q]

The actual answer is November 20, 1999. Cornell 10 Clarkson 4

 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Trotsky (---.frdrmd.adelphia.net)
Date: March 15, 2005 07:12PM

Last time to (exactly):

19: 1/27/68
18: 1/20/68
17: Never
16: 12/14/57
15: 11/25/75
14: 3/4/70
13: 1/14/68
12: 2/4/78
11: 2/21/79
10: 11/20/99
 
Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 15, 2005 07:27PM

[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

Last time to (exactly):

19: 1/27/68
18: 1/20/68
17: Never
16: 12/14/57
15: 11/25/75
14: 3/4/70
13: 1/14/68
12: 2/4/78
11: 2/21/79
10: 11/20/99[/q]

Just out of curiosity...did we lose any of those games?

 
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Re: Last junior with 100 points
Posted by: RatushnyFan (---.royalusa.com)
Date: March 15, 2005 09:48PM

[Q]Avash '05 Wrote:

Before Ryan Vesce did it in 2003, I believe the last Cornell player to reach 100 points during his junior year was Joe Nieuwendyk (who scored his 100th point very early in his junior season. It may have been the first game, although I'm not positive).[/q]
Ryan Hughes had 111 points after his junior season in 1992. Trent Andison was close with 95 through his junior season of 1990 (had a poor junior year after 71 points in his first two years).

 

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