Cornell-Clarkson postgame thread

(Suggest this thread for postgame comments but keep out of town scores on the adjacent thread)

Almost deja vu all over again in 2005 but this is definitely a better team.

Clarkson did well to hang in there. It didn't degrade into a slugfest in the third period (looked as if it might based on the second period).

24 straight penalty kills.

Cornell may have the nation's #1 power play but that's on average over the course of the season. Anybody else worried about what happens when we run up against another good PK team?

Best of luck to you fellas........I will keep posting......staying with the tradition of leaving it all in the rink and remaining a gentleman when the game is over.
Cheers, boys!
Do us proud, ECAC !
Drew

Some random thoughts from a weary and hoarse fan:

Thank you, Dave McKee, pipes, and crossbar for keeping us in the game.

Thank you, Topher Scott for the VERY big goal and for salvaging the evening.

NO thanks to Peter Feola whose calls seem truly random or maybe based in a fantasy I certainly don't understand. Are there ANY good officials in the East?

While we dominated play almost completely Friday night, we certainly had our troubles tonight. I think Clarkson stepped things up a notch, and our usually crisp passing and adept stock-handling were both off a lot tonight. We'll need to get more of our game together for more of the time to do well in Albany.

Still, an undefeated season in Lynah is a fabulous gift to those of us who fill the stands, and I thank everyone in the hockey program for a job very well done.

GO RED!

Ken '71

Didn't play well tonight, but they found a way to win, and considering winning is the only important thing in the playoffs, I'll take it. Conversely, I thought Clarkson played extremely extremely well - very possibly their best game of the season (although I haven't seen them much obviously). Anyways, that was the loudest I have heard Lynah in my lifetime certainly.

Thanks, Drew. Your boys gave us a hell of a game. Let's hope the Red use it as a wake up call for Albany.

God bless Dave McKee.

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
24 straight penalty kills. [/q]More directed at Jason Weinstein than at you, but....

Stop SAYING that! Are you TRYING to jinx them?

I think Topher Scott is the most excitable, child-like player I have ever seen (with no elusion to his hight). Whenever his line scores he shows far more emotion than any other player, and from interviews he seems to be very appreciative of the Lynah crowd. It's really nice to see, and why he is a fan favorite (along with the novelty of his size).

*swallows red pride for one minute*

I would just like to say that I thought it was a nice gesture for the Clarkson team to salute thier fans after the game. I really showed that maybe those goons have collective heart. But in all seriousness, the clarkson fans were good fans, and they deserved a salute.

On another note, I thought Cornell was horrible tonight. They did not play well. but they did get a win and that is what good teams do. Thanks for a great home season guys!

Some thoughts, likely ones many others have already had:

- Ryan O'Byrne. What. The. Fuck. I'm sorry, but if tonight doesn't prove he's a liability simply because half the time he's horrid (though to be fair, the other half he's pretty solid), I don't know what will. We can't get Pokulok back quick enough. I don't know if O'Byrne would be the one bumped from the lineup, but I hope he is.

- Clarkson did their usual amount of gooning (which is to say, quite a bit), but they still played a hell of a game tonight. Their second goal was an excellent shot. I expect them to be better next year, probably somewhere around 5 or 6 in the RS.

- Topher Scott, the unlikely hero! Okay, maybe not that unlikely, but given that he's the smallest guy on a team of giants, I'm overjoyed to see him score the gamewinner.

- Both McKee and Traylen played an excellent game tonight. Traylen can only get better and is bound to have one hell of a senior year.

- Cheers to the players for welcoming us onto the ice. Even if they have done it four out of the previous five seasons, it's still nice to see.

- Jeers to David Cayer for attempting to stick it to the Faithful after his goal. Way to go, douchebag, you just proved that we can get inside your head! Also jeers to Matt Curley for doing much the same, though without a goal to his credit.

- As that one townie sign said, C U in Albany!

-I thought that Hynes, Pegs and Scott were consistenly the best players on the ice. Whenever one of them touched the puck they tried to make things happen more than the rest of the team. O'Bryne and Krantz I thought were the worst of our players. Maybe this will teach O'Byrne to stop bringing the puck in front of the net like that!!! I thought that Krantz was caught out of position more than usual.
-It was great to see Topher score the game winning goal after being ridden by the Clarkson fans all night and being ridden by anyone in a Clarkson jersey for the entire weekend.
-And a special thanks to whomever decided to bring the lady over in N (sorry I don't know her name) over to B to cheer during overtime. It was great for some of us to see who have been at games watching her for several years.
-See everyone in Albany...

[Q]Will Wrote:

Some thoughts, likely ones many others have already had:

- Ryan O'Byrne. What. The. Fuck. I'm sorry, but if tonight doesn't prove he's a liability simply because half the time he's horrid (though to be fair, the other half he's pretty solid), I don't know what will. We can't get Pokulok back quick enough. I don't know if O'Byrne would be the one bumped from the lineup, but I hope he is.

- Clarkson did their usual amount of gooning (which is to say, quite a bit), but they still played a hell of a game tonight. Their second goal was an excellent shot. I expect them to be better next year, probably somewhere around 5 or 6 in the RS.

- Topher Scott, the unlikely hero! Okay, maybe not that unlikely, but given that he's the smallest guy on a team of giants, I'm overjoyed to see him score the gamewinner.

- Both McKee and Traylen played an excellent game tonight. Traylen can only get better and is bound to have one hell of a senior year.

- Cheers to the players for welcoming us onto the ice. Even if they have done it four out of the previous five seasons, it's still nice to see.

- Jeers to David Cayer for attempting to stick it to the Faithful after his goal. Way to go, douchebag, you just proved that we can get inside your head! Also jeers to Matt Curley for doing much the same, though without a goal to his credit.

- As that one townie sign said, C U in Albany![/q]

Absolutely no chance does O'Byrne get bumped from the lineup. He has led the team in ice time several times this season proving that the coaching staff loves him. I can see where you are coming from but he isn't as bad as you are saying. Considering how much ice time he gets, I think he does pretty well. I didn't think he played badly tonight at all although he definitely has his moments.

[Q]Drew042 Wrote:

-I thought that Hynes, Pegs and Scott were consistenly the best players on the ice. Whenever one of them touched the puck they tried to make things happen more than the rest of the team. O'Bryne and Krantz I thought were the worst of our players. Maybe this will teach O'Byrne to stop bringing the puck in front of the net like that!!! I thought that Krantz was caught out of position more than usual.
-It was great to see Topher score the game winning goal after being ridden by the Clarkson fans all night and being ridden by anyone in a Clarkson jersey for the entire weekend.
-And a special thanks to whomever decided to bring the lady over in N (sorry I don't know her name) over to B to cheer during overtime. It was great for some of us to see who have been at games watching her for several years.
-See everyone in Albany...[/q]

You can see my O'Byrne comments about. Regarding Krantz, I thought he sort of had a weird game in that he was either making amazing plays or brutal ones. The pinch in ot that led to the 2-on-1 was ridiculous and I was surprised that he got another shift after that. The guy has the hardest shot on the team and has outstanding ability to rush the puck as he displayed a couple times tonight, going end to end. Bottom line is he's a freshman and they all make mistakes.

-Yeah, I agree that O'Bryne can be decent at times, but still he gives me ulcers when he handles the puck at times behind the net...and then other times he can bring it out and beat the other team to the other end of the ice.
-I also thought the McKee was a little shaky in the first period (I wonder how much that first goal got under his skin). He definetly got better by the end of the game and played his usual stellar self in the 3rd period and overtime.

1. We won while we played a terrible game. That says something.
2. Clarkson played it's usual dirty game. I hope Roll can change things over time; I look forward to the games of old. I'm glad, in some ways, that it was as close as it was. (Yeah right) Well, it did keep the goon squad in check late in the game.
3. McKee did not have his best game, but neither did anyone else. Many more rebounds than I remember. However he got much better as the game went on, so that speaks well.
4. We'll have a difficult time in Albany, regardless of who we play. We've won alot of close games, so you never know how far we can go. Remember how close our wins were 2 years ago. We could easily have lost the ECAC and not gone to the Frozen Four.
5. Being home reading the Forum, and watching the SU-G'town Lax game on CSTV, on my Apple-Priceless. I'll post it on the Analog to Digital Converter thread that I started in Feb., but Age, thanks for the input on the Formac converter. It's wonderful, both for watching TV on the Mac, and for converting my analog tapes to the Mac and DVDs. THANKS.
6. SU just tied it up. 6-6

just got confirmation from a group of female friends at JO's...the bars are bumping...

CalgAri:

You don't remember...you weren't around yet...in 1979, Cornell 6- Providence 5 OT win coming from a 1-5 deficit was probably one of the loudest I've ever heard Lynah. That was when the fans coming onto the ice after the game was born. Also the Harvard game in which a young Mike Schafer broke the stick over his head before the game and then CU came back to win that game. Tonite was also pretty special. This team seems to be able to find a way to win. Really nice to see.

Larry '72

Strange request but could someone describe the winning goal? I was just listening to the radio feed and it wasn't described very well. On the radio it sounded like Clarkson was breaking up a rush when all of a sudden people started cheering . Curious what happened.

I've got a pretty good, prety objective, measure of how loud Lynah is.

I sit in Section C, near D, in the 4th row.

When we score most goals, by the time the band is ending "Davy" I can hear it, so I know when to start counting, etc.

After some big goals, it is almost impossible to hear the band clearly, over the crowd, and I really have to strain just to pick up a couple of notes, so I know when to start counting.

After our second goal tonight, I couldn't hear the band at all. Not a note. I actually think they may have played Davy twice after that goal, and if they did, I caught the tail end of the second one, but I'm not even sure of that.

That's how loud Lynah was tonight.
Andy W.

And what about after the third goal?

[Q]schoaff Wrote:

Strange request but could someone describe the winning goal? I was just listening to the radio feed and it wasn't described very well. On the radio it sounded like Clarkson was breaking up a rush when all of a sudden people started cheering . Curious what happened.[/q]


I could be wrong, as I was at the wrong end of the rink, but as I recall...

A pass came out to Scott, who was at the left point, from near the corner. Scott one-timed it, and beat Traylen high on the glove side.

At least that's what it looked like from about 130 feet away.
Andy W.

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Some great quotes, stats, and injury info! Nice work, Avash!

[q]
"They got lucky," said a frustrated Latulippe. "We outplayed them all game long. They just got a bounce. They just got lucky tonight, and I think they know it too."[/q]

This from the guy who was outright handed a goal tonight?! That's some nerve! What a sore loser...

1.) Doug Krantz had an absolutely awful game. I couldn't believe he kept getting back on the ice. Everytime he got the puck he was fumbling with it, made some brutal passes, was out of position regularly. I actually thought he was shaky with the puck last night too, maybe just Freshman jitters.
2.) I thought McKee was bad tonight. Lots of rebounds, and the second goal should have been stopped.
3.) Thank god Schafer put the Moulson-Bitz-Hynes line together. Completely dominant.
4.) Jay Latulippe is a dirtbag.

[Q]mjh89 Wrote:

1.) Doug Krantz had an absolutely awful game. I couldn't believe he kept getting back on the ice. Everytime he got the puck he was fumbling with it, made some brutal passes, was out of position regularly. I actually thought he was shaky with the puck last night too, maybe just Freshman jitters.
2.) I thought McKee was bad tonight. Lots of rebounds, and the second goal should have been stopped.
3.) Thank god Schafer put the Moulson-Bitz-Hynes line together. Completely dominant.
4.) Jay Latulippe is a dirtbag.[/q]

Amen to point no. 4.

But I have to disagree on no. 2. I think the first goal really shook him up. It would anyone. It could only have been worse if O'Byrne scored it himself and then punched McKee in the face. I mean seriously, someone give O'Byrne an assist on that one... The second goal was a result of a good breakaway and a good shot. Does McKee usually stop shots like that? Yes. But I think he was still very shaken up. I'm inclined to give him mad props for getting his shit together between 1st and 2nd, and playing better and better as the game went on. After all, he made some absolutely clutch saves in OT. Without them, Topher would have never had the chance to score that goal.

Yey McKee!

[Q]mjh89 Wrote:
2.) I thought McKee was bad tonight. Lots of rebounds, and the second goal should have been stopped.[/q]

You must be kidding. Were we watching the same game?

Aside from the fact that McKee came up big when he absolutely needed to, late in the third period, and through much of the OT, you thought he should have stopped the second goal? It was a 1 on none, and the guy took a slap shot from around 15-20 feet out, that beat McKee cleanly on the glove side. Had he made the stop, it would have been a spectacular save...a highlight reel save. To say he should have stopped it is absolutely ludicrous. We've come to expect a lot from McKee, but if we start expecting him to make saves on shots like that routinely we are just expecting too much.
Andy W.

I think McKee's a great goalie, but he should have stopped the second goal. A completely unscreened slap shot from the top of the circle beating him that cleanly? It wasn't like it was a perfect shot either, I didn't hear it ring off the post and in. And besides that I was talking more about his rebounds that seemed to be going every which way. Besides, everybody says McKee played amazingly every game, he makes a routine glove save and everybody in lynah starts the we're not worthy thing. He didn't have a good game tonight.

Winning Goal... Puck was poked out to Topher on the left side, one-timed just over the shoulder of Traylen. It wasn't that hard of a shot, but a good one nonetheless.

McKee played well tonight, but his rebounds were a bit more than we're used to. Another point was that the defense seemed to be a little off tonight (like the second goal). Without them clearing the puck after rebounds it seemed like the puck was 5 feet in front of McKee on more than one occasion (especially around the 6 min mark of OT)

Credit to Clarkson for playing hard. I think the game was pretty even, with each team dominating for stretches at a time. I agree that we did get luck on some plays where the puck was just sitting in front of McKee, but same with Traylen.

I thought Pegs played great tonight. He pushed the puck a lot and had a couple chances to attack the net. Hynes.....I think he had 3 penalties (?). I was a bit frustrated by that (but more at Feola) but oh well.

Tonight was the loudest I've heard Lynah in my time here. The team was really into it, motioning the fans to get louder. They wanted the win, the fans wanted it. Thanks to the team for delivering and keeping us unbeaten at lynah this season.

I don't know what Ari's cookin up, but I think LaTullippe (spell?), should get one of the three stars of the weekend, if not two. He was a travesty for his team with all those stupid penalties. Nice way to end a career.

[Q]mjh89 Wrote:

I think McKee's a great goalie, but he should have stopped the second goal. A completely unscreened slap shot from the top of the circle beating him that cleanly? It wasn't like it was a perfect shot either, I didn't hear it ring off the post and in. And besides that I was talking more about his rebounds that seemed to be going every which way. Besides, everybody says McKee played amazingly every game, he makes a routine glove save and everybody in lynah starts the we're not worthy thing. He didn't have a good game tonight.[/q]

I'm gonna partially agree with you here. I thought he was really really shaky in the first period. Clarkson was throwing the puck at the net a lot more and he seemed uncomfortable handling a lot. First goal was definitely in his head. I konw McKee isn't an aggressive goalie, but he needed to come out a bit to cut off the angle on that second goal. He should not have let it in. I will say that I thought he got better as the game went along making big saves in the second and third periods as well as overtime. He definitely settled down as the team did after the first period was fine after that. McKee isn't going to be superhuman every night but he seems to be most nights. Tonight just wasn't one of them.

[Q]aznxjz Wrote:

Winning Goal... Puck was poked out to Topher on the left side, one-timed just over the shoulder of Traylen. It wasn't that hard of a shot, but a good one nonetheless.

McKee played well tonight, but his rebounds were a bit more than we're used to. Another point was that the defense seemed to be a little off tonight (like the second goal). Without them clearing the puck after rebounds it seemed like the puck was 5 feet in front of McKee on more than one occasion (especially around the 6 min mark of OT)

Credit to Clarkson for playing hard. I think the game was pretty even, with each team dominating for stretches at a time. I agree that we did get luck on some plays where the puck was just sitting in front of McKee, but same with Traylen.

I thought Pegs played great tonight. He pushed the puck a lot and had a couple chances to attack the net. Hynes.....I think he had 3 penalties (?). I was a bit frustrated by that (but more at Feola) but oh well.

Tonight was the loudest I've heard Lynah in my time here. The team was really into it, motioning the fans to get louder. They wanted the win, the fans wanted it. Thanks to the team for delivering and keeping us unbeaten at lynah this season.[/q]


Great point about the defense. They struggled especially in the first period. And we're talking about even Downs and Cook who never seem to make mistakes. They were on edge after the early goal but they came out of it eventually. Hynes did have three penalties, but I thought he was Cornell's best player this weekend. The style he plays and attitude he brings means he's going to get penalties. Definitely give credit to Clarkson for how they played tonight. They played very hard and were probably the better team, but they're finished and it's outstanding that Cornell was able to put them away.

[Q]Jeff Hopkins '82 Wrote:

Thanks, Drew. Your boys gave us a hell of a game. Let's hope the Red use it as a wake up call for Albany.

God bless Dave McKee.[/q]

I think Mckee won the game for you.......and I love topher scott's energy.

[q]"They got lucky," said a frustrated Latulippe. "We outplayed them all game long. They just got a bounce. They just got lucky tonight, and I think they know it too."[/q]



We bid you adieu, Jay.

[Q]"They got lucky," said a frustrated Latulippe. "We outplayed them all game long. They just got a bounce. They just got lucky tonight, and I think they know it too."[/Q]

::flipb::

well, what a game to drive 3 hrs to after an overnight call - i slept on the way. driving back was easy. not a bad trip from buffalo to ithaca. a few points:

1. hats off to clarkson for playing a solid game. there were stretches of the game where they had hold and control of play in the offensive zone but most of their success last night came from taking advantage of cornell miscues, and there were many. the 1st goal was pretty bad. o'byrne had the puck behind the net and saw the clarkson player coming (latullipe i think). he went to deek right and shovel the puck left except on his deek right he lost the puck and it went thru mckee into the 5 hole and in front of the net -> tap in goal. rule #1 in defense, when it doubt dump the puck away from the net
2. the second goal dave let in was a GREAT shot. all he was given was upper 90 far post and that is exactly where he put it. inbelievable shot.
3. about mckee not seeming to play well, he seemed a little sloppy on controlling rebounds at time but he made some crazy saves. especially in the 3rd when clarkson turned up the heat. he has really impressed me on how much better he has gotten and i was the one telling everyone we would be fine in between the goal posts after lenny left he is SUCH a solid goalie.
4. the team played well at the end of the second and overall the 3rd period was played well by both teams. it takes heart to come back from spotting the team a goal to win in OT. great character builder game and it was a war on the ice. clarkson should take pride in that.
5. wish i could be in albany LGR!

Speaking of players trying to cheat in a little, or trying to launch a man-short breakaway: This week's or last week's Sports Illustrated says the basketball players with the highest steals averages often get there by taking too many chances and burning their teams.

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

Speaking of players trying to cheat in a little, or trying to launch a man-short breakaway: This week's or last week's Sports Illustrated says the basketball players with the highest steals averages often get there by taking too many chances and burning their teams. [/q]


My old coach used to say "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'."

[Q]Drew Wrote:

billhoward Wrote:

Speaking of players trying to cheat in a little, or trying to launch a man-short breakaway: This week's or last week's Sports Illustrated says the basketball players with the highest steals averages often get there by taking too many chances and burning their teams. [/Q]
My old coach used to say "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'."
[/q]

Somehow I feel that's what Roll tells his players too...