Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by billhoward
Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2004 03:31PM
With Denver's NCAA championship this year, now only Colorado College has suffered a worse championship drought than Cornell. Colorado College last won 47 years ago in 1957. Denver's last NCAA championship before this year was the 4-3 victory over Cornell 35 years ago. Cornell has been waiting 34 years since that 29-0 season. (Stats going back to 1948) :
Title Team/record in title year Years Since Championship
1957 Colorado Col. (25-5) 47 years
1970 Cornell (29-0) 34
1975 Michigan Tech. (32-10) 29
1984 Bowling Green (34-8-2) 20
1985 Rensselaer (35-2-1) 19
1986 Michigan St. (34-9-2) 18
1989 Harvard (31-3) 15
1990 Wisconsin (36-9-1) 14
1991 Northern Mich. (38-5-4) 13
1994 Lk Superior St. (31-10-4 10
1995 Boston U. (31-6-3) 9
1998 Michigan (32-11-1) 6
1999 Maine (31-6-4) 5
2000 North Dakota (31-8-5) 4
2001 Boston College 3
2003 Minnesota 1
2004 Denver 0
Title Team/record in title year Years Since Championship
1957 Colorado Col. (25-5) 47 years
1970 Cornell (29-0) 34
1975 Michigan Tech. (32-10) 29
1984 Bowling Green (34-8-2) 20
1985 Rensselaer (35-2-1) 19
1986 Michigan St. (34-9-2) 18
1989 Harvard (31-3) 15
1990 Wisconsin (36-9-1) 14
1991 Northern Mich. (38-5-4) 13
1994 Lk Superior St. (31-10-4 10
1995 Boston U. (31-6-3) 9
1998 Michigan (32-11-1) 6
1999 Maine (31-6-4) 5
2000 North Dakota (31-8-5) 4
2001 Boston College 3
2003 Minnesota 1
2004 Denver 0
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2004 08:30PM by billhoward.
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: French Rage (---.twcny.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2004 04:43PM
What about teams that never won for longer than us? Like Clarkson.
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: David Harding (---.client.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2004 04:47PM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
With Denver's NCAA championship this year, now only Colorado College has suffered a worse championship drought than Cornell...
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That's just counting the schools that have ever won. What about the, admittedly small, number who have been playing for 50 years without any championships?
With Denver's NCAA championship this year, now only Colorado College has suffered a worse championship drought than Cornell...
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That's just counting the schools that have ever won. What about the, admittedly small, number who have been playing for 50 years without any championships?
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: Will (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: April 11, 2004 05:43PM
[Q]David Harding Wrote:
That's just counting the schools that have ever won. What about the, admittedly small, number who have been playing for 50 years without any championships?
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Which, of course, includes nine out of the twelve current ECAC teams.
That's just counting the schools that have ever won. What about the, admittedly small, number who have been playing for 50 years without any championships?
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Which, of course, includes nine out of the twelve current ECAC teams.
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Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2004 08:44PM
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2004 09:01PM by billhoward.
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2004 08:56PM
[Q]David Harding Wrote:
billhoward Wrote:
With Denver's NCAA championship this year, now only Colorado College has suffered a worse championship drought than Cornell...
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That's just counting the schools that have ever won. What about the, admittedly small, number who have been playing for 50 years without any championships?
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[Ignore the previous two msgs by me. I sent the same one three times.]
More have been bridesmaids than brides. Like Yale, like Brown, Clarkson, Princeton, Colgate, etcetera. Not to be cruel to Princeton, but do you sign on to the Old Nassau team in hopes of winning the NCAA championship, or earning an orange-and-black varsity P. (Okay, at Clarkson they play for keeps and they've come up short. But how many of them would be there if their SATs were 100 points higher?)
I mostly wanted to point out that for those teams that have tasted the fruit of victory, going into this past weekend three erstwhile NCAA hockey champs - Cornell, Denver, Michigan Tech -- had gone 30-plus years without another title. Who in Ithaca in 1970 would have thought more than a generation would pass and still no third NCAA title for the Big Red? And that after 1973, there'd only be two trips to the final four in the next two decades after seven trips in the previous eight years?
It's only going to get tougher because there are way more schools playing Division I hockey now. Tougher because there are more schools and tougher because you have to play more games to win it all. Used to be, you made the NCAAs, you won two games, you were champ. Now you've got to win four NCAA games (preceded by winning four ECAC games for Cornell), and with that, the law of averages sneaks up on you. Ask North Dakota this year or Colorado College last year.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/11/2004 09:02PM by billhoward.
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.ne.client2.attbi.com)
Date: April 11, 2004 09:04PM
[Q]Will Wrote:
David Harding Wrote:
That's just counting the schools that have ever won. What about the, admittedly small, number who have been playing for 50 years without any championships?
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Which, of course, includes nine out of the twelve current ECAC teams.[/q]
And six of the nine Hockey East teams (soon to be seven of ten ).
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Bridesmaids
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2004 09:32PM
[Q]David Harding Wrote:
billhoward Wrote:
With Denver's NCAA championship this year, now only Colorado College has suffered a worse championship drought than Cornell...
[/Q]
That's just counting the schools that have ever won. What about the, admittedly small, number who have been playing for 50 years without any championships?
[/q]
Here's the bridesmaids - been to the title game and came up short. Don't feel too sad for Minnesota. They've got 5 titles to go with the 6 runner-up trophies. BU has 4 champsionships.
Minnesota 6 (losses in title game)
Boston U. 5
Michigan Tech. 4
North Dakota 4
Clarkson 3
Denver 3
Maine 3
Colorado College 2
Cornell 2
Dartmouth 2
Harvard 2
Michigan 2
Michigan St. 2
New Hampshire 2
St. Lawrence 2
Wisconsin 2
Brown 1
Colgate 1
Colorado Col. 1
Lake Superior St. 1
Minn.-Duluth 1
Northern Mich. 1
Providence 1
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: Avash (---.twcny.rr.com)
Date: April 11, 2004 11:16PM
So I guess this means that CC and Cornell are the Cubs and Red Sox of college hockey
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: billhoward (---.union01.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 11, 2004 11:48PM
[Q]Avash '05 Wrote:
So I guess this means that CC and Cornell are the Cubs and Red Sox of college hockey [/q]
You mean the Cubs and the Sox. "Red Sox" is unncessary and redundant, just as "late-season Red Sox collapse" would be a triple redundancy on the order of "white rap music." There are the Sox and the White Sox. Okay? Now back to hockey and lacrosse.
You touched a raw nerve. I'm still getting over the Sox losing Fisk to the White Sox.
So I guess this means that CC and Cornell are the Cubs and Red Sox of college hockey [/q]
You mean the Cubs and the Sox. "Red Sox" is unncessary and redundant, just as "late-season Red Sox collapse" would be a triple redundancy on the order of "white rap music." There are the Sox and the White Sox. Okay? Now back to hockey and lacrosse.
You touched a raw nerve. I'm still getting over the Sox losing Fisk to the White Sox.
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.ny325.east.verizon.net)
Date: April 12, 2004 01:23AM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
You mean the Cubs and the Sox. "Red Sox" is unncessary and redundant, just as "late-season Red Sox collapse" would be a triple redundancy on the order of "white rap music." There are the Sox and the White Sox. Okay? Now back to hockey and lacrosse. [/q]"late-season Red Sox collapse" is redundant. "white rap music" is an oxymoron. :p
You mean the Cubs and the Sox. "Red Sox" is unncessary and redundant, just as "late-season Red Sox collapse" would be a triple redundancy on the order of "white rap music." There are the Sox and the White Sox. Okay? Now back to hockey and lacrosse. [/q]"late-season Red Sox collapse" is redundant. "white rap music" is an oxymoron. :p
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: ninian '72 (165.224.215.---)
Date: April 12, 2004 08:36AM
[Q]billhoward Wrote:
There are the Sox and the White Sox. Okay? [/q]
Whoa! Native Chicagoans might beg to differ:
[www.suntimes.com]
There are the Sox and the White Sox. Okay? [/q]
Whoa! Native Chicagoans might beg to differ:
[www.suntimes.com]
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: billhoward (---.ziffdavis.com)
Date: April 12, 2004 10:38AM
[Q]jmh30 Wrote:
billhoward Wrote:
You mean the Cubs and the Sox. "Red Sox" is unncessary and redundant, just as "late-season Red Sox collapse" would be a triple redundancy on the order of "white rap music." There are the Sox and the White Sox. Okay? Now back to hockey and lacrosse. [/Q]
"late-season Red Sox collapse" is redundant. "white rap music" is an oxymoron. :p
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Sheesh! My fault for writing stuff late at night when I should be in bed. Of course. I meant double oxymoron for the latter.
Re: Years since last NCAA championship
Posted by: Steve Marciniec '85 (---.fluor.com)
Date: April 19, 2004 08:48PM
You don't necessarily need to win four ECAC games before the NCAAs as long as you play well enough during the regular season to get an at-large bid, as Cornell almost did. Denver was blown out of the WCHA tourney in the first round just as we were, but they had a 10-0 non conference record and had a decent season in the toughest league.
It may be a long shot, but I'd sure like to see our 35 year drought broken next year as well. If Denver can do it....
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