Cornell 3rd Jerseys

first off I'm a big fan of our traditional look, i want to keep it that way too, concidering the uniform disasters of the 80's.
but it might ba nice to see a special third jersey once or twice a year. there was a thread on the brand new sweaters worn by Notre Dame (an CU's ripped pants) at the Everblades this year. that could be a great time to bust out the thrid jerseys.
I guess I was thihking a jersey with the 'C' logo with the bear swiping acrosss it would be sweet. any thoughts people?

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No offense, but... That would be HORRIBLE! I really hate alternate jerseys and not just because I think most of them are incredibly ugly. (Examples: Clarkson's mustard jersey or Michigan's Maize tournament jerseys). Sorry I'm just a purist - stick with two. Just MNSHO.

Also, the new bear logo is hideous. Let's not have to use it more than the bare (no pun intended) minimum.

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

No offense, but... That would be HORRIBLE! I really hate alternate jerseys and not just because I think most of them are incredibly ugly. (Examples: Clarkson's mustard jersey or Michigan's Maize tournament jerseys). Sorry I'm just a purist - stick with two. Just MNSHO.[/q]
What Keith said.

Agreed. I like the simplicity of the athletic-font "CORNELL" on the front of our jersies, with no other adornments. It looks very traditional, and is very non-controversial.

Anyway, I have an unrelated question. The pictures from the home game against Brown showed players wearing a "JOE" tag on their left shoulder. What's the story behind it?

I like the look of our current jerseys. Simple and strong. Besides, when would the third jerseys be worn? On neutral ice?

[Q]The Rancor Wrote:

first off I'm a big fan of our traditional look, i want to keep it that way too, concidering the uniform disasters of the 80's. but it might ba nice to see a special third jersey once or twice a year. there was a thread on the brand new sweaters worn by Notre Dame (an CU's ripped pants) at the Everblades this year. that could be a great time to bust out the thrid jerseys. I guess I was thihking a jersey with the 'C' logo with the bear swiping acrosss it would be sweet. any thoughts people?

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The disasters of the 1980s were not making the Final Four so often, wouldn't you think, more than the uniforms.

Cornell doesn't seem to be a uniform-crazy school. Plus, there's only so much you can do with red and white. And it has to be red and white because Carnelian, the official Cornell color, would infringe on Harvard's crimson shade. On the other hand, Maine does a nice job with its colors. Not much you can do with Orange or Black and Orange, but when you win every lacrosse championship save two the past decade, who cares about your colors?

If I ran the zoo, I'd just put CORNELL across the front and be done with it. I would not put BIG RED across the front the way the football team, I believe, does it on at least the away jerseys, becase BIG RED is in VERY LITTLE type. The Bear does not look real fierce the way a tiger or eagle does. Cornell has a nice sound when you say it, as opposed to say Swarthmore, which makes you want to say something like, "Fight fiercely, Swarthmore. Well done, lads."

Maybe the players should have some say in it. Every once in a while the Hume Ec school has a design class where a couple of the students, sometimes players' girlfriends, design sweaters and pants. I remember one that got kind of laughed at was a spandex kind of pant not short pant, with the padding nicely in place and never shift. I think it got laughed at but I think (I may have this history backwards here) it actually preceded the one piece Flyers pants.

I'd be happy with cleaner pants and four fewer losses next year.

As was mentioned on another thead (I believe) the Joe patch on their jerseys was for ... "Joe Castro, a longtime athletic trainer with the Brown University men's ice hockey, soccer and lacrosse teams, passed away following a long bout with cancer."

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[Q]billhoward Wrote:

Cornell has a nice sound when you say it, as opposed to say Swarthmore, which makes you want to say something like, "Fight fiercely, Swarthmore. Well done, lads."
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Hey, I think Swarthmore has a nice ring to it. That's why most Swatties refer to it as "Swat".

Ah Swarthmore... still no mascot -- though Strongbad came up as a recent suggestion (and "The Fighting Quakers" shows up every once in a while).

(The suggested Strongbad link was [www.homestarrunner.com] -- keep watching).

Third jerseys are a "whore it cuz you can" move. Since we don't have gang members or grade school kids (same difference) buying our stuff in bulk from Ebbetts Field Flannels, there's no point.

Easy does it there … I agree with you about the need for a third jersey or lack thereof but you could do with out the stereotyping from up on your horse.

Third jerseys are a marketing scheme pure and simple. If we had one, it would be black with a red C and a bear of some sort. And I'm really glad we don't.

wow... and i get a poll question as a result of this thread? first time for everything.

Third jerseys can be cool, Wisconsin's and one of the Alaskian teams are really nice looking. (Pics would be helpful here, but I gave up searching) The nice ones are usually the exception and not the rule, though. I'd rather leave the third jersey alone than take the chance that it turns out like the Dallas Stars "Uterus" jersey

If I'm not mistaken didn't the HumEc school design the women's jerseys in the not so distant past? Or at least make some positive contribution? I can't remember the details.

[Q]Pete Godenschwager Wrote:

Third jerseys can be cool, Wisconsin's and one of the Alaskian teams are really nice looking. (Pics would be helpful here, but I gave up searching) The nice ones are usually the exception and not the rule, though. I'd rather leave the third jersey alone than take the chance that it turns out like the Dallas Stars "Uterus" jersey [/q]

well obviously ours would be cool....

hahaha Amen to that Pete. I never knew what mad cow disease looked like til I saw those.

How about a contest for 3rd jersey design. Something to do in the off season.
Here are my quick 5 minute examples of the letter type. If I get bored this week I'll try and make a real effort.

Speaking of black. RIP has had a few "third" jerseys. This year's were black (the theme was Black Friday) and were sold at silent auction during one of the games in December. The jerseys look horrible but the money raised was amazing. I think the highest shirt went for over $1000. I was in shock at the bids.

There were some parents bidding on their son's shirts and when you realize that many are getting over $100,000 in scholarship money the high bids aren't quite as bizarre.

It was a great way to raise money for their hockey program.

I think I'd puke if we ever took the ice in black jerseys. Can't say I like any of your concepts but a) you said they were 5 minute examples and b) I've already expressed my opinion on alternate jerseys in general.

in all honesty, i wouldn't mind third jerseys, as long as they look okay and the sale proceeds somehow end up benefitting the hockey program.
of course, this is a lot of ifs.

on the other hand, the third jersey does not have to involve a new design. seeing the team putting on a retro jersey (say, from the glorious late 60s) would be kind of cool too...

[Q]min Wrote:
on the other hand, the third jersey does not have to involve a new design. seeing the team putting on a retro jersey (say, from the glorious late 60s) would be kind of cool too... [/q]
If you remove the subtle serifs from the lettering on the current uniforms, add a bit of white lacing just below the front of the collar-line, and put a white stripe down the side of the pants (or are they shorts?) you'll have the uniform of the late 60s. Don't recall the pants being torn, however.

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

If you remove the subtle serifs from the lettering on the current uniforms, add a bit of white lacing just below the front of the collar-line, and put a white stripe down the side of the pants (or are they shorts?) you'll have the uniform of the late 60s. Don't recall the pants being torn, however.[/q]

I always called them pants ... but that's just me


I like the idea of a vintage/throw back kit. If that were to ever come about I would really only like to see it used for our most storied rivals. I don't even think they should be auctioned off, just kept for special occasions (see Notre Dame's green bowl jerseys).

[Q]min Wrote:

in all honesty, i wouldn't mind third jerseys, as long as they look okay and the sale proceeds somehow end up benefitting the hockey program. [/q]
Unless they held an auction like someone reported RPI did I doubt third jerseys would specifically benefit the hockey program. I assume sale proceeds would go to Athletics or the University in whatever fashion they normally do with the hockey program only getting its usual share. I could be wrong though.

[Q]Tom Pasniewski 98 Wrote:

If I'm not mistaken didn't the HumEc school design the women's jerseys in the not so distant past? Or at least make some positive contribution? I can't remember the details.[/q]

Depends what you consider "positive". IIRC those jerseys were hideous.

RIP has announced it's second annual Black Friday wingding. They will do the auction again. I hope the black jerseys look a bit better than they did this year.

[Q]marty Wrote:

RIP has announced it's second annual Black Friday wingding. They will do the auction again. I hope the black jerseys look a bit better than they did this year.[/q]

IIRC, this year's jerseys were black versions of the ones the 1985 National Championship team wore. Ugly or not, that's probably pretty meaningful to fans.

[Q]KeithK Wrote:

No offense, but... That would be HORRIBLE! I really hate alternate jerseys and not just because I think most of them are incredibly ugly. (Examples: Clarkson's mustard jersey or Michigan's Maize tournament jerseys). Sorry I'm just a purist - stick with two. Just MNSHO.[/q]

Agreed! The Michigan tournament jerseys look as if they were designed for a softball team sponsored by a Diner!