Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by jkahn
Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 21, 2013 11:39PM
Thursday WCHA Scores:
Wisc. 7 - Minn. St. 2
CC 4 - No. Dak. 3 (o't)
So the two teams definitely in the NCAA lose, Wisconsin is on the bubble and CC will need to win the tournament to make the NCAA's.
All this is not good news for Union and RPI. RPI is currently 19th in PWR, but will but rooting strongly for Wisconsin, Providence and BU just ahead of them to lose Friday.
Union is 15th and has a decent shot at making the NCAA's if they go 1 and 1 this weekend, except that with BU, Providence, CC, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan and Brown still alive in tournaments, Union could be knocked out at 1 and 1 this weekend if two of those win out (including also any non-Niagara AHA team). Given all the funkiness of PWR, there's a lot more to this, but to maximize our ECAC chances, I'll be rooting for some favorites rather than underdogs in other conference tournaments tomorrow.
Wisc. 7 - Minn. St. 2
CC 4 - No. Dak. 3 (o't)
So the two teams definitely in the NCAA lose, Wisconsin is on the bubble and CC will need to win the tournament to make the NCAA's.
All this is not good news for Union and RPI. RPI is currently 19th in PWR, but will but rooting strongly for Wisconsin, Providence and BU just ahead of them to lose Friday.
Union is 15th and has a decent shot at making the NCAA's if they go 1 and 1 this weekend, except that with BU, Providence, CC, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Michigan and Brown still alive in tournaments, Union could be knocked out at 1 and 1 this weekend if two of those win out (including also any non-Niagara AHA team). Given all the funkiness of PWR, there's a lot more to this, but to maximize our ECAC chances, I'll be rooting for some favorites rather than underdogs in other conference tournaments tomorrow.
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Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 04:48PM
Brown 4 Quinnipiac 0 Final
Bubble teams:
Canisius 5 Niagara 3 Final
Wisconsin 4 St. Cloud 1 Final
Bubble teams:
Canisius 5 Niagara 3 Final
Wisconsin 4 St. Cloud 1 Final
Edited 11 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2013 06:29PM by nyc94.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 05:48PM
Brown 4 Quinnipiac 0, end of 2
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 05:50PM
Providence 1 Lowell 0, end of 1
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 05:53PM
Alain wasn't answering Adam's questions between periods. Distracted?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: ugarte (38.96.141.---)
Date: March 22, 2013 05:54PM
I hope Brown scores 10.Trotsky
Brown 4 Quinnipiac 0, end of 2
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Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:02PM
I wouldn't shed any tears.ugarte
I hope Brown scores 10.Trotsky
Brown 4 Quinnipiac 0, end of 2
Brown has had 5 power plays, and Hartzell has just 15 saves. According to the Q announcers Brown is just hanging back playing good D, then scoring on the counter.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:04PM
It's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: BMac (---.smartleaf.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:06PM
Poop on the ticks! Poop on the ticks!
ROUND THE BOWL AND DOWN THE HOLE, GO BROWN GO!
ROUND THE BOWL AND DOWN THE HOLE, GO BROWN GO!
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:15PM
Borelli a save on a Connor Jones breakaway. Q has just 2 SOG in the first 7 minutes of the third.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:24PM
HE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:28PM
Trotsky
HE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Just a quick glance, but they seem ok. It isn't like they are Neon Blue or anything horrific like that (see bball uniforms of Norte Dame, Michigan and Oregon).
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:31PM
Maybe they're contemporary chic and you're too old to shift with fashion. You probably didn't appreciate the first time as a kid you saw harvest gold appliances.Trotsky
HE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:32PM
Not the color (which is just boring), but the logo, which looks like something out of F-1.Rita
Trotsky
HE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
Just a quick glance, but they seem ok. It isn't like they are Neon Blue or anything horrific like that (see bball uniforms of Norte Dame, Michigan and Oregon).
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:33PM
billhoward
Maybe they're contemporary chic and you're too old to shift with fashion. You probably didn't appreciate the first time as a kid you saw harvest gold appliances.Trotsky
HE SF on NBCSports. Lowell has otherworldly-level ugly uniforms.
It's been all downhill since the Peace of Westphalia.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:34PM
Brown wins, 4-zip. Bruno in their first final since 1993, and the lowest seed (7) to reach the final since 2004 (Clarkson, 9).
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:41PM
Canisius 5, Niagara 3. According to CHN this means two Atlantic Hockey teams will make the NCAA tournament for the first time.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:42PM
UMass-Lowell logo: I was thinking, the Albany River Rats decide post 9/11 to become the Albany Patriots, go red-white-blue, and this is the logo that says it so proudly.
Meanwhile, this looks like a Hockey East tournament final weekend except with all those empty seats. HE is supposed to sell out.
Meanwhile, this looks like a Hockey East tournament final weekend except with all those empty seats. HE is supposed to sell out.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: ajh258 (146.127.253.---)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:44PM
So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:47PM
billhoward
Meanwhile, this looks like a Hockey East tournament final weekend except with all those empty seats. HE is supposed to sell out.
Maine and UNH are not supposed to crap out in the QF, either.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:49PM
ajh258
So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
i'm no expert so don't bet your house on this, but union is at 15 and will like get bumped down and out by the AHA winner and Brown if Brown wins the ECAC. So I think we can get Brown or Union in but not both. In the WCHA both Wisconsin and CC have to win to get in and both are still alive. And of course Michigan winning the CCHA would screw things up even more.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:49PM
That would probably knock Union out. They are only a 15 now.ajh258
So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 06:51PM
Rita
i'm no expert so don't bet your house on this, but union is at 15 and will like get bumped down and out by the AHA winner and Brown if Brown wins the ECAC. So I think we can get Brown or Union in but not both.
So Yale can ensure the conference 3 reps by losing tonight.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 07:41PM
Brown makes the NCAAs, they're going to walk to the top of the arena and try to look out a window or fire door to see if they on set at the Truman Show.ajh258
So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 07:46PM
the providence - uml game is taking forever. I didn't know they could review icing calls.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 07:55PM
I wonder if the Cornell players will be watching it from the clubhouse at the golf course.billhoward
Brown makes the NCAAs, they're going to walk to the top of the arena and try to look out a window or fire door to see if they on set at the Truman Show.ajh258
So if Union wins, and Brown wins tomorrow, we'll have 4 ECAC teams in the NCAA?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 08:16PM
North Dakota fell to #11 in PWR afteer last night's results. Without playing, they were up to #5 about an hour ago, but have since fallen to #7. It's great that PWR's purely objective but the methodology sure needs some tweaking.
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Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 08:30PM
union up 3-0 very early in the 2nd. A very pretty breakout leads to unions 3rd goal.
cc and minnesota tied at 0, late in the 1st.
In the scoreboard watching department for squeakball, FGCU the university in Estero that is a long golf drive from Germain Arena, is taking it to #2 seed Georgetown. This is their 2nd (or 3rd) year of DI basketball eligibility.
cc and minnesota tied at 0, late in the 1st.
In the scoreboard watching department for squeakball, FGCU the university in Estero that is a long golf drive from Germain Arena, is taking it to #2 seed Georgetown. This is their 2nd (or 3rd) year of DI basketball eligibility.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 08:51PM
Trotsky
It's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
Attendance: 0
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
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Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 08:58PM
Those Groupon offers made the turnstiles whirl.Jim Hyla
Trotsky
It's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
Attendance: 0
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 09:15PM
I recall this happening last year. Since it's a single ticket for both games, possibly they won't have the number until after the second game?Jim Hyla
Trotsky
It's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
Attendance: 0
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jordan 04 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 09:21PM
kingpin248
I recall this happening last year. Since it's a single ticket for both games, possibly they won't have the number until after the second game?Jim Hyla
Trotsky
It's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
Attendance: 0
Yeah, they're probably missing a zero.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: dbilmes (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 09:35PM
Rita
In the scoreboard watching department for squeakball, FGCU the university in Estero that is a long golf drive from Germain Arena, is taking it to #2 seed Georgetown. This is their 2nd (or 3rd) year of DI basketball eligibility.
We played tennis at FGCU a few years ago when we were down in Estero for the hockey tournament!
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 09:41PM
4-0 Union, midway through the third.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 09:48PM
Trotsky
4-0 Union, midway through the third.
Looks like 4's and 0's are lucky numbers in Atlantic City this weekend.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 09:59PM
Union wins 5-zip.
The ECAC will get its three reps.
The ECAC will get its three reps.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 10:09PM
Trotsky
Union wins 5-zip.
The ECAC will get its three reps.
Somehow appropriate that this upside down ECAC season - with Cornell, Harvard, and Clarkson finishing in the bottom four, and none of those three in the tournament semifinals for only the second time ever - ends with two long-time doormats playing for the Whitelaw Trophy.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: nyc94 (---.sub-174-252-19.myvzw.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 10:32PM
Colorado College beats Minnesota 2-0.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 10:44PM
Trotsky
Union wins 5-zip.
The ECAC will get its three reps.
Yale is not a lock. There is the possibility of 5 lower teams winning their tournaments. Then Yale could be out. As of now at least 3 lower teams will win. I consider Union to be a lower, as it's likely they need to win to get in.
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 22, 2013 10:45PM
nyc94
Colorado College beats Minnesota 2-0.
As Adam just posted in the pairwise blog, there are a lot of "bid-stealers" this year and BU is doing its best to be one too. Just went up 4-2 on BC, and BU still has 4+ min left on a 5 min pp.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 10:51PM
Yale needs to win, or have Miami or Mass-Lowell win. Consy really has meaning. Can Q play well knowing that they are only playing to regain their form?
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2013 10:53PM by Jim Hyla.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: nyc94 (---.sub-174-252-19.myvzw.com)
Date: March 22, 2013 10:58PM
Rita
nyc94
Colorado College beats Minnesota 2-0.
As Adam just posted in the pairwise blog, there are a lot of "bid-stealers" this year and BU is doing its best to be one too. Just went up 4-2 on BC, and BU still has 4+ min left on a 5 min pp.
BU scores again on a PP, 5-2.
Edit: 5-3 now. 3:58 remaining. BC going on the PP.
Edit: BC pulling the goalie for the second minute of the PP. And BU scores. 6-3.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2013 11:18PM by nyc94.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: dbilmes (---.adsl.snet.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:43AM
Based on the comments by Q coach after game saying his team played its "worst game of year" and Hartzell also didn't play well, I expect Q will come out with its A game today. Pecknold pulled Hartzell for 14 seconds after the third Brown goal to give him a talking-to, and then put him back in the game.Jim Hyla
Yale needs to win, or have Miami or Mass-Lowell win. Consy really has meaning. Can Q play well knowing that they are only playing to regain their form?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 08:12AM
dbilmes
Based on the comments by Q coach after game saying his team played its "worst game of year" and Hartzell also didn't play well, I expect Q will come out with its A game today. Pecknold pulled Hartzell for 14 seconds after the third Brown goal to give him a talking-to, and then put him back in the game.Jim Hyla
Yale needs to win, or have Miami or Mass-Lowell win. Consy really has meaning. Can Q play well knowing that they are only playing to regain their form?
Reached for comment, Mark Morris suggested goalie rotation at every stoppage followed by a beating.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:16AM
kingpin248
I recall this happening last year. Since it's a single ticket for both games, possibly they won't have the number until after the second game?Jim Hyla
Trotsky
It's the quietest rink I've ever heard. Brown must think it's a home game.
Not that it's accurate (they probably don't want to publish the real number), but from the boxscore:
Attendance: 0
Nice thought, here's the box score for the second game.
Attendance: 0
Maybe they just had trouble counting all the people. I mean check out all the photos on USCHO.
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:24AM
Speaking of the Grey Lady USCHO, has anyone else found the speed of page loading to have gotten far slower over the last several months? Not just during game nights (when high usage would be expected) but just generally?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:27AM
There is a comment on the USCHO game thread that attendance looked to be "about one quarter of a game at Meehan."
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:36AM
Trotsky
There is a comment on the USCHO game thread that attendance looked to be "about one quarter of a game at Meehan."
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
316 sounds about right. Families of the players and the school bands should be good for about ~ 75/people per team.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:58AM
In lieu of a real analysis by the experts, here is where we stand (approximately) on the NCAA draw.
* = still alive in their conference tourney
(7) Group I: In
I am presuming (mostly arbitrarily %) the top 7 in the PWR are in, if not formally then with overwhelming probability:
1. Quinnipiac (ECAC)
2. Minnesota (WCHA)
3. Lowell (HE) *
4. Miami (CCHA) *
5. BC (HE)
6. North Dakota (WCHA)
7. UNH (HE)
(3) Group II: In by the Law of the Excluded Middle
Two teams enter, one team leaves:
14. Union (ECAC) * or 20. Brown (ECAC) *
17. Wisconsin (WCHA) * or 25. CC (WCHA) *
--. Mercyhurst (AH) * or --. Canisius (AH) *
Those 10 teams leave 6 slots that can be populated from the following two groups:
Group III: On the Bubble
8. Notre Dame (CCHA) *
9. Yale (ECAC)
10. Denver (WCHA)
11. Mankato (WCHA)
12. Niagara (AH)
13. St. Cloud (WCHA)
Group IV: Deus ex Auto Bid
Teams outside the top 16 but still alive for an auto bid:
18. BU (HE) *
26. Ohio State (CCHA) * or 29. Michigan (CCHA) *
% Reasoning thusly: go down until you reach a team that could still really screw themselves.Since the CCHA still has a consolation game, Notre Dame can still lose twice once, so they (the #8) are the dividing line.
* = still alive in their conference tourney
(7) Group I: In
I am presuming (mostly arbitrarily %) the top 7 in the PWR are in, if not formally then with overwhelming probability:
1. Quinnipiac (ECAC)
2. Minnesota (WCHA)
3. Lowell (HE) *
4. Miami (CCHA) *
5. BC (HE)
6. North Dakota (WCHA)
7. UNH (HE)
(3) Group II: In by the Law of the Excluded Middle
Two teams enter, one team leaves:
14. Union (ECAC) * or 20. Brown (ECAC) *
17. Wisconsin (WCHA) * or 25. CC (WCHA) *
--. Mercyhurst (AH) * or --. Canisius (AH) *
Those 10 teams leave 6 slots that can be populated from the following two groups:
Group III: On the Bubble
8. Notre Dame (CCHA) *
9. Yale (ECAC)
10. Denver (WCHA)
11. Mankato (WCHA)
12. Niagara (AH)
13. St. Cloud (WCHA)
Group IV: Deus ex Auto Bid
Teams outside the top 16 but still alive for an auto bid:
18. BU (HE) *
26. Ohio State (CCHA) * or 29. Michigan (CCHA) *
% Reasoning thusly: go down until you reach a team that could still really screw themselves.
Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2013 06:29PM by Trotsky.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 10:11AM
Rooting interests to maximize ECAC representation (a.k.a., save Yale)
Based on the above, our rooting interests today are the following.
Very strongly prefer:
Lowell > BU
Miami > Michigan (The beast must die)
Yale > Quinnipiac
Weakly prefer:
Ohio State > Notre Dame (Knock ND down, then have OSU lose tomorrow)
CC > Wisconsin (Yale beat CC once)
Agnostic:
Canisius vs Mercyhurst
Brown > Union? Not sure.
Based on the above, our rooting interests today are the following.
Very strongly prefer:
Lowell > BU
Miami > Michigan (The beast must die)
Yale > Quinnipiac
Weakly prefer:
Ohio State > Notre Dame (Knock ND down, then have OSU lose tomorrow)
CC > Wisconsin (Yale beat CC once)
Agnostic:
Canisius vs Mercyhurst
Brown > Union? Not sure.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 10:17AM
I think your analysis is pretty much "bang on" as some Canadians I know would say.Trotsky
In lieu of a real analysis by the experts, here is where we stand (approximately) on the NCAA draw.
* = still alive in their conference tourney
(7) Group I: In
I am presuming (mostly arbitrarily %) the top 7 in the PWR are in, if not formally then with overwhelming probability:
1. Quinnipiac (ECAC)
2. Minnesota (WCHA)
3. Lowell (HE) *
4. Miami (CCHA) *
5. BC (HE)
6. North Dakota (WCHA)
7. UNH (HE)
(3) Group II: In by the Law of the Excluded Middle
Two teams enter, one team leaves:
14. Union (ECAC) * or 20. Brown (ECAC) *
17. Wisconsin (WCHA) * or 25. CC (WCHA) *
--. Mercyhurst (AH) * or --. Canisius (AH) *
Those 10 teams leave 6 slots that can be populated from the following two groups:
Group III: On the Bubble
8. Notre Dame (CCHA) *
9. Yale (ECAC)
10. Denver (WCHA)
11. Mankato (WCHA)
12. Niagara (AH)
13. St. Cloud (WCHA)
Group IV: Deus ex Auto Bid
Teams outside the top 16 but still alive for an auto bid:
18. BU (HE) *
26. Ohio State (CCHA) * or 29. Michigan (CCHA) *
% Reasoning thusly: go down until you reach a team that could still really screw themselves. Since the CCHA still has a consolation game, Notre Dame can still lose twice so they (the 7) are the dividing line.
It's a huge possible bursting bubble for some teams. As of now, a team could finish #12 in PWR and not make the tournament.
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Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: jtwcornell91 (Moderator)
Date: March 23, 2013 10:49AM
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Give My Regards (---.atc-nycorp.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 11:16AM
Trotsky
% Reasoning thusly: go down until you reach a team that could still really screw themselves. Since the CCHA still has a consolation game, Notre Dame can still lose twice so they (the 7) are the dividing line.
Dunno how much, if at all, this affects your analysis, but the CCHA does not have a consolation game this year (or ever again, apparently).
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Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: kingpin248 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 12:03PM
Rita
Trotsky
There is a comment on the USCHO game thread that attendance looked to be "about one quarter of a game at Meehan."
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
316 sounds about right. Families of the players and the school bands should be good for about ~ 75/people per team.
The updated box score claims 3145 tickets were sold, as opposed to 3462 for the semifinals last year, and 3351 in 2010-11. Based on the sound in the building and the few shots of the seats, I'd think the actual number of people in the building was somewhere in the triple digits.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 12:42PM
kingpin248
Rita
Trotsky
There is a comment on the USCHO game thread that attendance looked to be "about one quarter of a game at Meehan."
Brown's mean attendance is listed on CHN as 1264.
That would make last night's attendance 316.
316 sounds about right. Families of the players and the school bands should be good for about ~ 75/people per team.
The updated box score claims 3145 tickets were sold, as opposed to 3462 for the semifinals last year, and 3351 in 2010-11. Based on the sound in the building and the few shots of the seats, I'd think the actual number of people in the building was somewhere in the triple digits.
So maybe it's just the ECAC site that doesn't want to tell the "attendance". They still say 0.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 01:57PM
It isn't as much fun this year
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Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 02:37PM
If Brown wins they are given a place in Providence because they are the host there. (Why isn't Providence the host?) Jason Moy has had QPac in Providence in his bracketology.
Would a Brown autobid for winning today force QPac to New Hampshire and BC to Providence?
Would a Brown autobid for winning today force QPac to New Hampshire and BC to Providence?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: ugarte (38.96.141.---)
Date: March 23, 2013 02:59PM
I think the school has to submit a sponsoring bid.marty
(Why isn't Providence the host?)
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quality tweets | bluesky (twitter 2) | ALAB Series podcast | Other podcasts and writing
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 03:29PM
One potential bid stealer is eliminated. Norte Dame (who is in position for a possible at large bid) has beaten Ohio State.
On a positive note, ND wore "normal colored" uniforms: white jerseys, blue pants, gold trim. Not neon green eyesores.
On a positive note, ND wore "normal colored" uniforms: white jerseys, blue pants, gold trim. Not neon green eyesores.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 05:04PM
In case anyone's interested, CCHA is on FCS Pacific as well as Detroit. At least in TWCNY.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 05:46PM
Mich up 2-0 in second
Q 1-0 first inter
Q 1-0 first inter
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 05:48PM
3-0 mich
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 05:49PM
4-0 Mich
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 05:50PM
Jim Hyla
Mich up 2-0 in second
Q 1-0 first inter
Apparently, wolverines also have 9 lives. and are on route to score 9 goals in this semi-final.
4-0 michigan ~ 8 min left in the 2nd.
Miami's safety sieve gets to play.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 05:51PM
4-0 Michigan over Miami with 8:27 left in the 2nd. If they win the CCHA, a likely match-up is with Minnesota in the first round.
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Jeff Kahn '70 '72
Jeff Kahn '70 '72
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:16PM
Q 2-0 third
M 4-1 second inter
M 4-1 second inter
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:20PM
Q 3-0
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:22PM
Q 3-0 final
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:22PM
Jim Hyla
Q 2-0 third
M 4-1 second inter
Yale loses 3-0. It is going to be a long 27 hrs for the Bulldogs. Yale Bulldogs are now Notre Dame's biggest fans.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2013 06:23PM by Rita.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: jkahn (---.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:26PM
I've run several YATC scenarios, and in the ones I've run, Yale is eliminated if either BU wins tonight or Michigan wins tomorrow. If both BU and Michigan win, then St. Cloud is also eliminated in the scenarios I tried. But, I certainly didn't try every possibility.Jim Hyla
Q 3-0 final
___________________________
Jeff Kahn '70 '72
Jeff Kahn '70 '72
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:39PM
jkahn
I've run several YATC scenarios, and in the ones I've run, Yale is eliminated if either BU wins tonight or Michigan wins tomorrow. If both BU and Michigan win, then St. Cloud is also eliminated in the scenarios I tried. But, I certainly didn't try every possibility.Jim Hyla
Q 3-0 final
Unfortunately for Yale and the ECAC, I'm rooting for both of those upsets.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:42PM
Yale finishes (nearly*) their run of amazing offensive players with a respectable 2 ECAC titles. However, given the caliber of the players who went through the school recently, they probably could have rolled up even more trophies.
Career points:
163 Brian O'Neill '12
150 Andrew Miller '13
142 Broc Little '11
131 Denny Kearney '11
126 Sean Backman '10
116 Mark Arcobello '10
* Kenny Agostino '14, with 96 points, remains.
For comparison, over the same period Greening's 118 led Cornell.
Remarkably, Yale was shut out this weekend.
Career points:
163 Brian O'Neill '12
150 Andrew Miller '13
142 Broc Little '11
131 Denny Kearney '11
126 Sean Backman '10
116 Mark Arcobello '10
* Kenny Agostino '14, with 96 points, remains.
For comparison, over the same period Greening's 118 led Cornell.
Remarkably, Yale was shut out this weekend.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2013 06:44PM by Trotsky.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 06:46PM
Mich 6-2 7:46 to go
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 07:00PM
Is it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 07:09PM
Trotsky
Is it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
The ECAC site lists U radio. As an aside CCHA had no video stream. What do you call that?
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 07:17PM
You think the tv gods could have arranged for staggered starts? Both the ECAC and HE finals started at 7 pm. would have been nice to have them offset by 30 min so that you could flip to the other during intermissions.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 07:44PM
I call that video, which is harder.Jim Hyla
Trotsky
Is it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
The ECAC site lists U radio. As an aside CCHA had no video stream. What do you call that?
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 07:45PM
When the schedule was made up they expected us to be in the final. After the inevitable line brawl, the games would have been staggered.Rita
You think the tv gods could have arranged for staggered starts? Both the ECAC and HE finals started at 7 pm. would have been nice to have them offset by 30 min so that you could flip to the other during intermissions.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 07:54PM
Aint looking good for Bruno. 2-0 Union after 1.
Per ECAC, attendance holding steady at "0."
Per ECAC, attendance holding steady at "0."
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2013 07:55PM by Trotsky.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:12PM
BU goalie just knocked the puck into his own net. UML 1-0 third
U 3-1 third
U 3-1 third
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:22PM
If it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:23PM
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:28PM
UML survives a frantic 90s of BU having the extra attacker. UML 1-0. BU eliminated.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:28PM
Kyle Rose
You want Yale out?Jim Hyla
If it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
Yes
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:30PM
U wins, now we have to hear how they are so dominant.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:31PM
Bruno runs out of luck. Union wins 3-1.
Yale still alive for an at large bid.
Wisconsin up 2-1 on CC in the 2nd in a "winner takes all" game.
Yale still alive for an at large bid.
Wisconsin up 2-1 on CC in the 2nd in a "winner takes all" game.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:38PM
Why? Maybe I'm a bad Cornell fan, but I have a hard time hating other teams for being better than mine. Yale has been consistently better than Cornell for the last 4 years. The answer to that isn't wishing ill will upon them.Jim Hyla
Kyle Rose
You want Yale out?Jim Hyla
If it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
Yes
Congrats to Union for their back-to-back ECAC championships. Sigh: I remember those (though I was still a student at the time).
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:41PM
Kyle Rose
Why? Maybe I'm a bad Cornell fan, but I have a hard time hating other teams for being better than mine. Yale has been consistently better than Cornell for the last 4 years. The answer to that isn't wishing ill will upon them.Jim Hyla
Kyle Rose
You want Yale out?Jim Hyla
If it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
Yes
Congrats to Union for their back-to-back ECAC championships. Sigh: I remember those (though I was still a student at the time).
I think Jim is also a Michigan Alum.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:42PM
You sound like a bitter Red Sox fan talking about the Yankees.Jim Hyla
U wins, now we have to hear how they are so dominant.
Cornell sucked this year and is playing some well-earned golf at the moment. Get over it. The people to blame aren't at Yale: they're at Cornell.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 09:43PM
That's why I asked if he wanted Yale out, not if he wanted Michigan to win.Rita
Kyle Rose
Why? Maybe I'm a bad Cornell fan, but I have a hard time hating other teams for being better than mine. Yale has been consistently better than Cornell for the last 4 years. The answer to that isn't wishing ill will upon them.Jim Hyla
Kyle Rose
You want Yale out?Jim Hyla
If it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
Yes
Congrats to Union for their back-to-back ECAC championships. Sigh: I remember those (though I was still a student at the time).
I think Jim is also a Michigan Alum.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 10:13PM
Anyone else bummed out by the fact that Cornell beat Michigan, Colorado College, and Union (and split with Brown)? Rough day/year to be a fan. Must be a lot worse to be a player.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Rita (---.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)
Date: March 23, 2013 10:21PM
marty
Anyone else bummed out by the fact that Cornell beat Michigan, Colorado College, and Union (and split with Brown)? Rough day/year to be a fan. Must be a lot worse to be a player.
I'm 0-fer on my routing interests. I pulling for CC over Wisc solely on the fact that CC traveled to Lynah. Also, for those of you over 40, it is fun hearing the name "Krushelnyski" This is former Edmontom Oiler (among other NHL teams) Mike's son Alex.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 10:30PM
Kyle Rose
That's why I asked if he wanted Yale out, not if he wanted Michigan to win.Rita
Kyle Rose
Why? Maybe I'm a bad Cornell fan, but I have a hard time hating other teams for being better than mine. Yale has been consistently better than Cornell for the last 4 years. The answer to that isn't wishing ill will upon them.Jim Hyla
Kyle Rose
You want Yale out?Jim Hyla
If it stays as is, Yale is in if Mich loses. Go Blue.
Yes
Congrats to Union for their back-to-back ECAC championships. Sigh: I remember those (though I was still a student at the time).
I think Jim is also a Michigan Alum.
So, don't make all those assumptions about me. Rita is right, I also went to UM. You asked if I wanted Yale out. I said yes. That's the only way UM gets in. You didn't ask if I wanted UM in.
In regards to U. There has been conversation since they won last year, as to how they've talked about being the dominant team in the ECAC. That was after they won 1 championship. I'm not being bitter, and it has nothing to do with how Cornell or Yale did. It has to do with their fans.
Just don't make assumptions about my feelings. I'm happy to tell them to you, if you ask.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 10:35PM
For all that are interested, some of the LP hotels are taking reservations for next year's ECAC weekend. I just made one at the Golden Arrow. It's right across from the rink, with parking. You know how valuable that can be. However, they still have their 7 day cancelation policy. I'm going to email Mr. Hagwell. Last fall he said he was looking into it.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 23, 2013 10:47PM
Wisc wins, one more game to go.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 24, 2013 12:14AM
Yes, it has occurred to a lot of people that Cornell could have been in the NCAAs and made the proverbial deep run, which I think means winning both games the first weekend.marty
Anyone else bummed out by the fact that Cornell beat Michigan, Colorado College, and Union (and split with Brown)? Rough day/year to be a fan. Must be a lot worse to be a player.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 24, 2013 12:02PM
Trotsky
I call that video, which is harder.Jim Hyla
Trotsky
Is it actually true of our jerkwater conference that there is *no* audio stream of the final by the league or either school?
The ECAC site lists U radio. As an aside CCHA had no video stream. What do you call that?
I should have been clearer. I meant that you called the ECAC a "jerkwater conference" and having no audio (as an aside it did have audio). So what do you call a conference that has no internet video?
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: March 24, 2013 01:13PM
I think the DeerTicks are going to be screwed in the seedings. They are the overall number one and I have BC. and Union possible in their bracket for travel/ ticket sales.
If it weren't for UHN hosting, B.C. would be in Manchester for travel reasons. I'm not expecting B.C. to go to Toledo.
QPuke being an overall number one shouldn't be seeded against number five (or six depending on CCHA) B.C. - oh well.
If it weren't for UHN hosting, B.C. would be in Manchester for travel reasons. I'm not expecting B.C. to go to Toledo.
QPuke being an overall number one shouldn't be seeded against number five (or six depending on CCHA) B.C. - oh well.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/24/2013 01:16PM by marty.
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 24, 2013 01:48PM
marty
I think the DeerTicks are going to be screwed in the seedings. They are the overall number one and I have BC. and Union possible in their bracket for travel/ ticket sales.
If it weren't for UHN hosting, B.C. would be in Manchester for travel reasons. I'm not expecting B.C. to go to Toledo.
QPuke being an overall number one shouldn't be seeded against number five (or six depending on CCHA) B.C. - oh well.
It really depends upon whether the committee factors in attendance.
Here's Adam's non-attendance look.
A contrary view by CHN pro-attendance view by Mike Machnik.
And USCHO's Jason Moy's pro-attendance view.
It's tough. I also look at attendance not as a monetary issue, but from a fans perspective, can I go and watch.
___________________________
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Conference Tournaments / NCAA Bubble
Posted by: Kyle Rose (---.mycingular.net)
Date: March 24, 2013 02:04PM
While I am happy to stand corrected on this, I don't think my interpretation of your statement was unreasonable, just wrong as it turned out.Jim Hyla
Just don't make assumptions about my feelings. I'm happy to tell them to you, if you ask.
I do still stand by my overall opinion on this matter of other cellar-dwellers now doing well: too many ELynah regulars are living in the past, acting like Cornell owns the ECAC. That attitude is arrogance, pure and simple, and needs to stop.
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