Polls
Posted by Jim Hyla
Polls
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 17, 2012 07:54AM
Here's this week, 1/16. My thanks to Ken Schott.
USCHO.com/NCAA Poll Team (First Place) Record Pts Last Week 1 Minnesota-Duluth(50) 15-4-3 1000 1 2 Boston University 13-6-1 871 6 3 Boston College 14-8-1 856 4 4 Minnesota 16-8-1 783 5 5 Ohio State 14-6-3 780 2 6 Merrimack 12-4-5 747 7 7 Notre Dame 13-8-3 731 3 8 Western Michigan 12-7-5 627 10 9 Cornell 10-4-3 571 9 10 Michigan 14-8-4 563 15 11 Colorado College 13-8-1 505 8 12 Union 12-5-6 417 14 13 Ferris State 14-8-2 396 13 14 Massachusetts-Lowell12-6-0 370 11 15 Denver 13-8-3 338 16 16 Michigan State 12-9-3 205 18 17 North Dakota 12-9-2 201 17 18 Colgate 12-8-2 156 12 19 Lake Superior 13-10-3 129 19 20 Miami 12-10-2 91 NR Others receiving votes: Northern Michigan 81, Nebraska-Omaha 43, Quinnipiac 15, Harvard 6, Northeastern 6, Minnesota State 4, Maine 3, RIT 2, St. Cloud State 2, Mercyhurst 1. USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll (First-place votes in parentheses) Rank School Last Week's Ranking 2011-12 Record Weeks in Top 15 1 Minnesota Duluth,(34)510 1 15-4-3 15 2 Minnesota, 435 5 16-8-1 14 3 Boston University, 422 6 13-6-1 12 4 Boston College, 406 4 14-8-1 15 5 Ohio State, 363 2 14-6-3 9 6 Notre Dame, 335 3 13-8-3 15 7 Merrimack, 321 7 12-4-5 14 8 Western Michigan, 275 11 12-7-5 15 9 Cornell, 232 9 10-4-3 5 10 Michigan, 191 15 14-8-4 11 11 Colorado College, 165 8 13-8-1 15 12 Union, 152 13 12-5-6 13 13 UMass Lowell, 97 10 12-6-0 3 14 Ferris State, 84 12 14-8-2 10 15 Denver, 60 NR 13-8-3 14 Others receiving votes: North Dakota, 8; Colgate, 7; Northern Michigan, 7; Michigan State, 5; Nebraska Omaha, 3; Miami (Ohio), 1; Quinnipiac, 1.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Polls
Posted by: nyc94 (---.cable.mindspring.com)
Date: January 23, 2012 08:59PM
Cornell remains at no. 9 in the USCHO poll. Up four spots to 5 in the INCH Power Ranking.
Re: Polls
Posted by: css228 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 23, 2012 09:34PM
Up 3 spots to 6 in the USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine pollnyc94
Cornell remains at no. 9 in the USCHO poll. Up four spots to 5 in the INCH Power Ranking.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 23, 2012 10:06PM
I'm glad that others have begun to see in this team what many of us began to see a short time ago. I found INCH's new power rankings interesting (sorry if they were posted elsewhere I have not come across it). I was able to be at the Sucks game and I left Lynah somewhat deflated. A tie to Harvard feels like a loss. However, INCH has a point with ranking us fifth nationally in power rankings.
I guess they have a point.
Inside College Hockey
The Big Red held Harvard's nation-leading power play to just one goal in five opportunities in a 2-2 tie on Saturday night at Lynah Rink.
I guess they have a point.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: January 24, 2012 07:37AM
It's not from the polls, but I like this quote from USCHO's "What we learned" post:
Need a sense of normalcy? Cornell took three points this weekend, extending the nation’s longest unbeaten streak to seven games.
Read more: [www.uscho.com]
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Polls
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.mobility-up.psu.edu)
Date: January 24, 2012 01:06PM
Jim Hyla
It's not from the polls, but I like this quote from USCHO's "What we learned" post:
Need a sense of normalcy? Cornell took three points this weekend, extending the nation’s longest unbeaten streak to seven games.
Read more: [www.uscho.com]
I appreciated it. I guess that Nate Owen has learned quickly what is expected and the norm in the ECAC.
Re: Polls
Posted by: scoop85 (173.84.100.---)
Date: January 24, 2012 04:44PM
While we certainly have been steady in racking-up points, I would like to see us control a bit more of the play than we have recently. I thought we were on our heals a bit too much against Dartmouth, the successful result notwithstanding.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 24, 2012 05:43PM
Agree. One other data point: at one point in the third period against Harvard, shots in the period were 5-2 for Cornell according to livestats. From that point to the end of overtime, shots were Harvard 10, Cornell 0. "On our heels a bit too much?"scoop85
While we certainly have been steady in racking-up points, I would like to see us control a bit more of the play than we have recently. I thought we were on our heals a bit too much against Dartmouth, the successful result notwithstanding.
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Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Re: Polls
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: January 24, 2012 06:17PM
After clicking through this link, I noticed that BU is now #2 in the INCH rankings and the USCHO poll, and #1 in the Pairwise. Since losing back-to-back games against Lowell and Merrimack in early November to fall to 3-4-1, the Terriers are on a 12-2-0 run (starting with a resounding 5-0 win at BC, who were 9-2-e time, and including the game at MSG). A tight loss to them looks a lot better now than it did at the time.Aaron M. Griffin
I'm glad that others have begun to see in this team what many of us began to see a short time ago. I found INCH's new power rankings interesting (sorry if they were posted elsewhere I have not come across it). I was able to be at the Sucks game and I left Lynah somewhat deflated. A tie to Harvard feels like a loss. However, INCH has a point with ranking us fifth nationally in power rankings.
Inside College Hockey
The Big Red held Harvard's nation-leading power play to just one goal in five opportunities in a 2-2 tie on Saturday night at Lynah Rink.
I guess they have a point.
Re: Polls
Posted by: ajh258 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: January 25, 2012 06:43AM
[www.uscho.com]
Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.
Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.
The coach is an adaptor; don’t be fooled into thinking otherwise. He has outgrown the battering rams and has adopted more decisive methods of taking the castle.
Just call him trebu-Schafer.
Re: Polls
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: January 25, 2012 09:16AM
ajh258
[www.uscho.com]
Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.
The coach is an adaptor; don’t be fooled into thinking otherwise. He has outgrown the battering rams and has adopted more decisive methods of taking the castle.
Just call him trebu-Schafer.
He's not getting any more t-shirts.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: January 25, 2012 09:34AM
So, Sullivan plays Civ.ajh258
[www.uscho.com]
Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.
The coach is an adaptor; don’t be fooled into thinking otherwise. He has outgrown the battering rams and has adopted more decisive methods of taking the castle.
Just call him trebu-Schafer.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Scersk '97 (---.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: January 25, 2012 11:05AM
Josh '99
After clicking through this link, I noticed that BU is now #2 in the INCH rankings and the USCHO poll, and #1 in the Pairwise. Since losing back-to-back games against Lowell and Merrimack in early November to fall to 3-4-1, the Terriers are on a 12-2-0 run (starting with a resounding 5-0 win at BC, who were 9-2-e time, and including the game at MSG). A tight loss to them looks a lot better now than it did at the time.
Playing with John's DIY rankings calculator, note that changing the BU game to a tie makes a pretty damn good season look great rankings-wise and that changing the BU game to a win makes the season look dominant. Like #3 nationally dominant.
I sometimes kind of hate the confluence of small numbers of events and small sample spaces.
(Indeed, after Lowell's recent loss, even just a tie makes us look golden.)
PS Winning twice against Colgate this weekend would go a long way toward a great seed in the tournament. Colgate is unlikely to drop out of contention, and they have some great non-conference wins that will help our common opponents criterion.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2012 11:11AM by Scersk '97.
Re: Polls
Posted by: munchkin (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 25, 2012 12:28PM
He really like to play Risk and Monopoly, I've never seen him play Civ.Trotsky
So, Sullivan plays Civ.ajh258
[www.uscho.com]
Sullivan finally wrote an in-depth analysis for this year's team; Schafer received high praise as well.
The coach is an adaptor; don’t be fooled into thinking otherwise. He has outgrown the battering rams and has adopted more decisive methods of taking the castle.
Just call him trebu-Schafer.
Re: Polls
Posted by: scoop85 (173.84.100.---)
Date: January 25, 2012 03:25PM
USCHO's first bracketology of the season. Not to get ahead of ourselves, but I think most of us would sign on the dotted line for this bracket.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Robb (192.206.89.---)
Date: January 25, 2012 04:31PM
Yeah, that should be even easier than one including Bemidji...scoop85
USCHO's first bracketology of the season. Not to get ahead of ourselves, but I think most of us would sign on the dotted line for this bracket.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Jordan 04 (155.72.28.---)
Date: January 25, 2012 04:36PM
Bridgeport sounds good to me.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Josh '99 (---.nyc.biz.rr.com)
Date: January 25, 2012 05:11PM
It sounds *convenient*; I can't say I agree that it sounds *good*.Jordan 04
Bridgeport sounds good to me.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Brian Sullivan (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 25, 2012 05:12PM
No, I'm not really a big fan of Monopoly, actually. And I don't know what "Civ" is... Civilization? I just happen to possess a working knowledge of medieval warfare. And Cornell hockey, more than anyone else, reminds me of medieval warfare.munchkin
He really like to play Risk and Monopoly, I've never seen him play Civ.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2012 05:15PM by Brian Sullivan.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: January 25, 2012 06:07PM
I've been playing Bracketology for the past couple weeks. I've ended up with us in any of the 4 brackets. It's just far too volatile to make any firm predictions.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: January 25, 2012 08:44PM
Brian Sullivan
And I don't know what "Civ" is... Civilization? I just happen to possess a working knowledge of medieval warfare. And Cornell hockey, more than anyone else, reminds me of medieval warfare.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
Date: January 30, 2012 11:25AM
Cornell took an expected and deserved tumble in the INCH Power Rankings this week. We sit at tenth.
Interestingly, INCH sees something in this team that causes them to rank it above teams much better situated in the PWR: Michigan (8th in PWR), Ferris State (4th in PWR), Maine (10th in PWR), Ohio State (5th in PWR), Miami (10th in PWR), and North Dakota (16th in PWR).
Inside College Hockey
We guess it could have been worse for Cornell on a weekend where they were swept by travel-partner Colgate ... at least they remembered to pack their jerseys this time.
Interestingly, INCH sees something in this team that causes them to rank it above teams much better situated in the PWR: Michigan (8th in PWR), Ferris State (4th in PWR), Maine (10th in PWR), Ohio State (5th in PWR), Miami (10th in PWR), and North Dakota (16th in PWR).
Re: Polls
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: January 30, 2012 03:43PM
Prediction: Cornell playing in a distant region on an Olympic sheet of ice that is the home rink of our opponent. And our cowbell will be confiscated because it conflicts with the home team band's Fender amps.Jeff Hopkins '82
I've been playing Bracketology for the past couple weeks. I've ended up with us in any of the 4 brackets. It's just far too volatile to make any firm predictions.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: January 30, 2012 03:50PM
billhoward
Prediction: Cornell playing in a distant region on an Olympic sheet of ice that is the home rink of our opponent. And our cowbell will be confiscated because it conflicts with the home team band's Fender amps.
Given our play of late, if we manage to get a bid to the NCAA tournament this year, I will rejoice at the above prediction coming true, unreservedly and with abandon.
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Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Polls
Posted by: Al DeFlorio (---.hsd1.ma.comcast.net)
Date: January 30, 2012 05:27PM
Undefeated on big ice this year.
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Al DeFlorio '65
Al DeFlorio '65
Re: Polls
Posted by: snert1288 (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: January 30, 2012 05:43PM
Is MSG not considered big? It certainly felt much bigger than Lynah.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: January 30, 2012 05:59PM
snert1288
Is MSG not considered big? It certainly felt much bigger than Lynah.
MSG is 200x85, just like Lynah. The seating just isn't as steep. I'm reasonably certain that the NHL requires all their sheets to be 200x85, though I'm also certain someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Polls
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: January 30, 2012 06:46PM
Beeeej
billhoward
Prediction: Cornell playing in a distant region on an Olympic sheet of ice that is the home rink of our opponent. And our cowbell will be confiscated because it conflicts with the home team band's Fender amps.
Given our play of late, if we manage to get a bid to the NCAA tournament this year, I will rejoice at the above prediction coming true, unreservedly and with abandon.
You will,but Jim Hyla will rejoice with much trepidation.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: February 23, 2012 01:43PM
I won't bother posting the entire results here, but this week's USCHO.com poll has us as #11, up from #12 last week.
[www.uscho.com]
The latest Bracketology is interesting... has us in Green Bay as #15 vs. #2 Michigan, with the other regional semi #11 Miami vs. #5 Minnesota-Duluth. That could be a great trio of games, especially with the preview it would give us of next season's Michigan game inSecaucus Bayonne New York City.
[www.uscho.com]
I know, polls don't mean anything, with the possibility of conference tourney upsets we probably have to win out to get into the NCAAs, blah blah blah... it's still fun to read.
[www.uscho.com]
The latest Bracketology is interesting... has us in Green Bay as #15 vs. #2 Michigan, with the other regional semi #11 Miami vs. #5 Minnesota-Duluth. That could be a great trio of games, especially with the preview it would give us of next season's Michigan game in
[www.uscho.com]
I know, polls don't mean anything, with the possibility of conference tourney upsets we probably have to win out to get into the NCAAs, blah blah blah... it's still fun to read.
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Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Polls
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 08, 2012 06:12PM
Now that we're back up to tied for 14th in the PWR, we're back in the "Bracketology" mix as a potential NCAA at-large bid.
[www.uscho.com]
Jayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with #5 Ferris State and #12 Michigan State the other regional semifinal. He moves Ferris State to avoid the intraconference matchup in the first round, and we get #6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.
So in this hypothetical universe, we could - provided we pull off a fairly big upset over Mass-Lowell - get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four. Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
I still think we should just win the ECAC tournament and not worry about the at-large bid, and I know that it might only take one or two upsets in the title games of other conference tournaments to knock us out of the top 15, but it's nice to know we're still in the mix.
[www.uscho.com]
Jayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with #5 Ferris State and #12 Michigan State the other regional semifinal. He moves Ferris State to avoid the intraconference matchup in the first round, and we get #6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.
So in this hypothetical universe, we could - provided we pull off a fairly big upset over Mass-Lowell - get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four. Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
I still think we should just win the ECAC tournament and not worry about the at-large bid, and I know that it might only take one or two upsets in the title games of other conference tournaments to knock us out of the top 15, but it's nice to know we're still in the mix.
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Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Polls
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 08, 2012 08:47PM
Beeeej
...get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four. Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
It'd be worth the trip to Bridgeport to see that rematch. I was very interested in this week's bracket for that very reason. If Cornell pulled off the upset, I have no doubt that BU would start caring about a rivalry that many BU fans now view as anachronistic or irrelevant.
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Class of 2010
2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Class of 2010
2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Re: Polls
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:04AM
Would be a good matchup. Both teams have lost a similar number of key players.Aaron M. Griffin
It'd be worth the trip to Bridgeport to see that rematch. I was very interested in this week's bracket for that very reason. If Cornell pulled off the upset, I have no doubt that BU would start caring about a rivalry that many BU fans now view as anachronistic or irrelevant.Beeeej
...get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four. Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.arthritishealthdoctors.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 07:30AM
For vastly different reasons, fortunately.billhoward
Would be a good matchup. Both teams have lost a similar number of key players.Aaron M. Griffin
It'd be worth the trip to Bridgeport to see that rematch. I was very interested in this week's bracket for that very reason. If Cornell pulled off the upset, I have no doubt that BU would start caring about a rivalry that many BU fans now view as anachronistic or irrelevant.Beeeej
...get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four. Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Polls
Posted by: marty (---.sub-166-248-13.myvzw.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 07:43AM
Jim Hyla
For vastly different reasons, fortunately.billhoward
Would be a good matchup. Both teams have lost a similar number of key players.Aaron M. Griffin
It'd be worth the trip to Bridgeport to see that rematch. I was very interested in this week's bracket for that very reason. If Cornell pulled off the upset, I have no doubt that BU would start caring about a rivalry that many BU fans now view as anachronistic or irrelevant.Beeeej
...get a rematch with BU in the regional finals in Connecticut for the right to go to the Frozen Four. Now that would be an interesting opportunity.
I thought that we are expecting to be only down one - Brian Ferlin.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 09:28AM
Beeeej
Jayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with...#6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.
Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article on the environment at Yost.
Detroit OnLion
"warm up the tractor" for MSU
Also from the blog post:
Detroit OnLion
...It's knowing what comes after "you're not a sieve, you're a funnel...". It's hoping that after thanking the PA announcer for telling us there is only one minute left in the period that he will announce "YOU'RE WELLLLLLCOME!" It's reminding the opposing goalie every time he takes his mask off that he is, in fact, ugly, and cheering him when he puts the mask back on.
Sound familiar?
I do like this section though:
Detroit OnLion
Where football is hindered by its excessive inclusiveness, hockey excels because of its exclusivity. When you step into the halls of Yost, you are not just attending a hockey game, you are joining a cult. You are witnessing a secret society known only to few.
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Class of 2010
2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Class of 2010
2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Re: Polls
Posted by: billhoward (---.shorthillssc.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 12:50PM
"Cult Known Only to a Few" replaces Ve Ri Tas on season tickets at Bright.Aaron M. Griffin
Beeeej
Jayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with...#6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.
Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article on the environment at Yost.
Detroit OnLion
"warm up the tractor" for MSU
Also from the blog post:
Detroit OnLion
...It's knowing what comes after "you're not a sieve, you're a funnel...". It's hoping that after thanking the PA announcer for telling us there is only one minute left in the period that he will announce "YOU'RE WELLLLLLCOME!" It's reminding the opposing goalie every time he takes his mask off that he is, in fact, ugly, and cheering him when he puts the mask back on.
Sound familiar?
I do like this section though:
Detroit OnLion
Where football is hindered by its excessive inclusiveness, hockey excels because of its exclusivity. When you step into the halls of Yost, you are not just attending a hockey game, you are joining a cult. You are witnessing a secret society known only to few.
Re: Polls
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 01:05PM
I fully endorse stealing a good cheer. but I'm not sure I like this one, at least out of context. I assume that this relates to MSU being something of an ag school. It's certainly the land grant school for the state of Michigan. Even if it's just ripping on East Lansing as being rural, does it make sense for Cornellians to use this as a taunt? Seems to me like it would be chanting "you're like us!"Aaron M. Griffin
Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article on the environment at Yost.
Detroit OnLion
"warm up the tractor" for MSU
Just my quick impressions on that one. If I'm missing something let me know.
Re: Polls
Posted by: RichH (---.northropgrumman.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 01:33PM
Aaron M. Griffin
This is from an article on the environment at Yost.
Detroit OnLion
"warm up the tractor" for MSU
Funny that we're the ECAC school that that would be most appropriate for. We've done "Go staht the cahh" for Harvard, and "Go start the tank" for Army. The only time Air Force came to Ithaca was in 1993, and I don't remember if the obvious variant was used.
Reading that blog post made me go to see if I could find the usual stories we post about the Cornell-Michigan Point-of-Thievery in 1991. I found a nice article from the Michigan Daily that was written in 2010, that is probably the most detailed to date. It's a really great read, especially the subsection titled "The Turning Point."
[www.michigandaily.com]
But many of the Michigan fans were new to college hockey and didn’t know how to pass the test presented by the Cornell contingent. So, the Wolverine fans took the Big Red’s cheers.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 01:36PM
The sting in the cheer is that they're warming it up. For example, we would chant "warm up the tank!" at Army. Nobody was criticizing them for being soldiers; it just fit.KeithK
I fully endorse stealing a good cheer. but I'm not sure I like this one, at least out of context. I assume that this relates to MSU being something of an ag school. It's certainly the land grant school for the state of Michigan. Even if it's just ripping on East Lansing as being rural, does it make sense for Cornellians to use this as a taunt? Seems to me like it would be chanting "you're like us!"Aaron M. Griffin
Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article on the environment at Yost.
Detroit OnLion
"warm up the tractor" for MSU
Just my quick impressions on that one. If I'm missing something let me know.
My complaint about tractor is that single syllables work better in that cheer. For ag schools I have always been partial to "Warm up the hoe!"
Re: Polls
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:04PM
Trotsky
The sting in the cheer is that they're warming it up. For example, we would chant "warm up the tank!" at Army. Nobody was criticizing them for being soldiers; it just fit.KeithK
I fully endorse stealing a good cheer. but I'm not sure I like this one, at least out of context. I assume that this relates to MSU being something of an ag school. It's certainly the land grant school for the state of Michigan. Even if it's just ripping on East Lansing as being rural, does it make sense for Cornellians to use this as a taunt? Seems to me like it would be chanting "you're like us!"Aaron M. Griffin
Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article on the environment at Yost.
Detroit OnLion
"warm up the tractor" for MSU
Just my quick impressions on that one. If I'm missing something let me know.
My complaint about tractor is that single syllables work better in that cheer. For ag schools I have always been partial to "Warm up the hoe!"
And just how do you do that?
Yes, I know, you yell it; but...
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"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Polls
Posted by: marty (---.sub-166-248-0.myvzw.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:07PM
Let's not forget my favorite variation during an away trip to RPI. They used their Red Hawk for hockey for a few years.
Warm Up the Grill!
Warm Up the Grill!
Re: Polls
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:26PM
KeithK
I fully endorse stealing a good cheer. but I'm not sure I like this one, at least out of context. I assume that this relates to MSU being something of an ag school. It's certainly the land grant school for the state of Michigan. Even if it's just ripping on East Lansing as being rural, does it make sense for Cornellians to use this as a taunt? Seems to me like it would be chanting "you're like us!"Aaron M. Griffin
Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article on the environment at Yost.
Detroit OnLion
"warm up the tractor" for MSU
Just my quick impressions on that one. If I'm missing something let me know.
You're right that it has to do with the rurality of East Lansing in part. So, it is only suspect if one views Ithaca as being as rural as East Lansing. I do not think it is.
Michigan intends it not as a jab at Michigan State being a land-grant institution (another thing that Cornell has in common with MSU). It intends it to mock Michigan State as what many Michigan fans depict as a "mere vocational school" or a "trade school." It mocks Michigan State's perceived lack of academic standards as well. It is as if one is calling Michigan State a rural safety school.
Trotsky
For ag schools I have always been partial to "Warm up the hoe!"
Valid point. I like "hoe" better. It works better for a crowd chanting it in unison. RPI's "that's debatable" when the opposing team returns to full strength gets incoherent because people speak at a different rate and it is exaggerated with the longer the word and the more syllables in the jeer.
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03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Class of 2010
2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Re: Polls
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.stny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:28PM
Jim Hyla
Trotsky
For ag schools I have always been partial to "Warm up the hoe!"
And just how do you do that?
Yes, I know, you yell it; but...
If you have to ask, then you're not doing it right.
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2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Class of 2010
2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Re: Polls
Posted by: RichH (---.northropgrumman.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 02:53PM
marty
Let's not forget my favorite variation during an away trip to RPI. They used their Red Hawk for hockey for a few years.
Warm Up the Grill!
Also: KFC! KFC!
Re: Polls
Posted by: CowbellGuy (Moderator)
Date: March 09, 2012 03:44PM
"Warm up the moose" has been done for Canadian exhibitions.
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Re: Polls
Posted by: css228 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: March 09, 2012 04:54PM
FYP.CowbellGuy
"Warm up the moose, eh?" has been done for Canadian exhibitions.
Re: Polls
Posted by: jtn27 (---.redrover.cornell.edu)
Date: March 09, 2012 06:32PM
css228
FYP.CowbellGuy
"Warm up the moose, eh?" has been done for Canadian exhibitions.
I thought it was "boose" not "moose" as in "bus" with a Canadian accent.
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Re: Polls
Posted by: abmarks (---.hsd1.nh.comcast.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 07:17PM
Well considering that we stole the *you're not a funnel, etc.." from clarkson I believe and stole the "awwww- see ya" from Michigan I'd hardly paint them as unimaginative villains.
And yes, I was at the infamaous '91 playoff series.
And yes, I was at the infamaous '91 playoff series.
Aaron M. Griffin
Beeeej
Jayson initially has us in the East Regional in Bridgeport, as the #14 facing #3 U. Mass-Lowell, with...#6 Boston University facing #12 Michigan State in the other semi.
Considering that Michigan stole and modified their best chants/taunts from us, I figured that we could steal one from them if we do happen to end up playing Michigan State anytime soon. This is from an article on the environment at Yost.
Detroit OnLion
"warm up the tractor" for MSU
Also from the blog post:
Detroit OnLion
...It's knowing what comes after "you're not a sieve, you're a funnel...". It's hoping that after thanking the PA announcer for telling us there is only one minute left in the period that he will announce "YOU'RE WELLLLLLCOME!" It's reminding the opposing goalie every time he takes his mask off that he is, in fact, ugly, and cheering him when he puts the mask back on.
Sound familiar?
I do like this section though:
Detroit OnLion
Where football is hindered by its excessive inclusiveness, hockey excels because of its exclusivity. When you step into the halls of Yost, you are not just attending a hockey game, you are joining a cult. You are witnessing a secret society known only to few.
Re: Polls
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 07:34PM
abmarks
Well considering that we stole the *you're not a funnel, etc.." from clarkson I believe and stole the "awwww- see ya" from Michigan I'd hardly paint them as unimaginative villains.
I think past discussions have pointed to Harvard as the source of that one, of all people.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Trotsky (---.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
Date: March 09, 2012 11:39PM
Harvard was who we stole it from, though they may have picked it up from somebody else during their NCAA runs of the 80's.RichH
abmarks
Well considering that we stole the *you're not a funnel, etc.." from clarkson I believe and stole the "awwww- see ya" from Michigan I'd hardly paint them as unimaginative villains.
I think past discussions have pointed to Harvard as the source of that one, of all people.
In the Harvard version, they repeated the goalie's name with each iteration, so the effect was actually a little better.
As difficult as it is to imagine, there was a time when Harvard actually had a decent crowd.
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/09/2012 11:41PM by Trotsky.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Beeeej (Moderator)
Date: March 14, 2012 05:33PM
With Cornell now at #13 in the PWR, the latest Bracketology has us facing #4 Miami in Bridgeport, CT in the regional semifinal, with the other Bridgeport semifinal #12 Denver vs. #5 Boston University.
[www.uscho.com]
I like this bracket a lot, too.
Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.
[www.uscho.com]
I like this bracket a lot, too.
Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.
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"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Beeeej, Esq.
"Cornell isn't an organization. It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
- Steve Worona
Re: Polls
Posted by: RichH (---.northropgrumman.com)
Date: March 14, 2012 06:24PM
Beeeej
With Cornell now at #13 in the PWR, the latest Bracketology has us facing #4 Miami in Bridgeport, CT in the regional semifinal, with the other Bridgeport semifinal #12 Denver vs. #5 Boston University.
[www.uscho.com]
I like this bracket a lot, too.
Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.
That's a lot of red.
And whatever that rust color Denver is.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Jeff Hopkins '82 (---.airproducts.com)
Date: March 15, 2012 07:46AM
RichH
Beeeej
With Cornell now at #13 in the PWR, the latest Bracketology has us facing #4 Miami in Bridgeport, CT in the regional semifinal, with the other Bridgeport semifinal #12 Denver vs. #5 Boston University.
[www.uscho.com]
I like this bracket a lot, too.
Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.
That's a lot of red.
And whatever that rust color Denver is.
As opposed to this coming weekend: Carnelian, crimson, maroon, and garnet.
Re: Polls
Posted by: RichH (---.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
Date: March 15, 2012 09:22AM
Jeff Hopkins '82
RichH
Beeeej
With Cornell now at #13 in the PWR, the latest Bracketology has us facing #4 Miami in Bridgeport, CT in the regional semifinal, with the other Bridgeport semifinal #12 Denver vs. #5 Boston University.
[www.uscho.com]
I like this bracket a lot, too.
Still, let's win two in a row this weekend.
That's a lot of red.
And whatever that rust color Denver is.
As opposed to this coming weekend: Carnelian, crimson, maroon, and garnet.
So there's Red, and a bunch of off-reds.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2012 09:22AM by RichH.
Re: Polls
Posted by: BMac (---.demarc.cogentco.com)
Date: March 15, 2012 10:20AM
We REALLY got MSU during the '06 series with Hail to the Victors as they skated in, and a ton of "safety schools" and "if you can't go to college go to state."
Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.
Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.
Re: Polls
Posted by: Aaron M. Griffin (---.mobility-up.psu.edu)
Date: March 15, 2012 10:28AM
BMac
We REALLY got MSU during the '06 series with Hail to the Victors as they skated in, and a ton of "safety schools" and "if you can't go to college go to state."
Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.
I am glad that you shared that. Far surpasses Michigan's own taunting of MSU with "warm up the tractor."
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03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
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2009-10 Cornell-Harvard:
11/07/2009 Ithaca 6-3
02/19/2010 Cambridge 3-0
03/12/2010 Ithaca 5-1
03/13/2010 Ithaca 3-0
Re: Polls
Posted by: French Rage (---.packetdesign.com)
Date: March 15, 2012 02:27PM
BMac
We REALLY got MSU during the '06 series with Hail to the Victors as they skated in, and a ton of "safety schools" and "if you can't go to college go to state."
Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.
People throwing water bottles might have factored in there too.
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03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
03/23/02: Maine 4, Harvard 3
03/28/03: BU 6, Harvard 4
03/26/04: Maine 5, Harvard 4
03/26/05: UNH 3, Harvard 2
03/25/06: Maine 6, Harvard 1
Re: Polls
Posted by: jkahn (---.73.146.216.biz.sta.networkgci.net)
Date: March 15, 2012 02:56PM
Aaron M. Griffin
BMac
We REALLY got MSU during the '06 series with Hail to the Victors as they skated in, and a ton of "safety schools" and "if you can't go to college go to state."
Those guys HATED the crowd after the series. Gave us all the finger as they skated off. Awesome.
I am glad that you shared that. Far surpasses Michigan's own taunting of MSU with "warm up the tractor."
For the series at MSU in Nov. '04, their crowd taunted us with "Harvard rejects" which was a perfect set up for our "Michigan rejects" response.
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Jeff Kahn '70 '72
Re: Polls
Posted by: Trotsky (---.dc.dc.cox.net)
Date: March 20, 2012 10:21AM
We drop one spot in this week's poll:
1 Boston College
2 Michigan
3 Union
4 North Dakota
5 Minnesota-Duluth
6 Minnesota
7 Miami
8 Boston University
9 Ferris State
10 Denver
11 Maine
12 Western Michigan
13 Massachusetts-Lowell
14 Cornell
15 Michigan State
16 Air Force
17 Merrimack
18 Harvard
19 Notre Dame
20 Northern Michigan
1 Boston College
2 Michigan
3 Union
4 North Dakota
5 Minnesota-Duluth
6 Minnesota
7 Miami
8 Boston University
9 Ferris State
10 Denver
11 Maine
12 Western Michigan
13 Massachusetts-Lowell
14 Cornell
15 Michigan State
16 Air Force
17 Merrimack
18 Harvard
19 Notre Dame
20 Northern Michigan
Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: RichH (---.northropgrumman.com)
Date: April 09, 2012 06:28PM
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: Jim Hyla (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 09, 2012 06:39PM
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
And considering how close we were to 2 & 3, not a bad season.
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Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005
Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: jtn27 (---.redrover.cornell.edu)
Date: April 09, 2012 07:07PM
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
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Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: Ronald '09 (---.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net)
Date: April 09, 2012 08:09PM
jtn27
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
RPI beat us. So did UMass. So did Brown. Should those teams be ahead of us?
Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: jtn27 (---.redrover.cornell.edu)
Date: April 09, 2012 08:12PM
Ronald '09
jtn27
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
RPI beat us. So did UMass. So did Brown. Should those teams be ahead of us?
But we beat Michigan in the playoffs. That's what counts.
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Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: css228 (---.twcny.res.rr.com)
Date: April 09, 2012 08:13PM
Yes. And UAH beat Denver at Denver. So obviously they should be at 12!Ronald '09
jtn27
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
RPI beat us. So did UMass. So did Brown. Should those teams be ahead of us?
Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: KeithK (---.external.lmco.com)
Date: April 09, 2012 09:05PM
Insofar as we're bothering to have a poll at this time of year voters should still be voting base don who is the best team given all of the available evidence. It shouldn't just be basedon playoff results. Small sample sizes and all.jtn27
Ronald '09
jtn27
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
RPI beat us. So did UMass. So did Brown. Should those teams be ahead of us?
But we beat Michigan in the playoffs. That's what counts.
Thought experiment. Let's say that the Air Force goalie started to channel the spirit of Ken Dryden in the tournament and managed to earn four 1-0 shut outs while his team was outshot by an average of 50-5. Air Force would then be the national champions. But given the peripherals would it make sense to vote them the #1 team in the country? I don't think so.
If you just want the final polls to follow the NC$$ tournament results then why bother havin a poll in the first place? Wait. Why do we have a poll after the tournament?
Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: ugarte (---.dyn.optonline.net)
Date: April 09, 2012 09:07PM
I just got a call from the Sun Sports Editor. You're fired. Fortunately I also got a call from Skip Bayless and you're hired.jtn27
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
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Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: jtn27 (---.redrover.cornell.edu)
Date: April 09, 2012 10:14PM
ugarte
I just got a call from the Sun Sports Editor. You're fired. Fortunately I also got a call from Skip Bayless and you're hired.jtn27
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
Seeing as how I just went from writing just 2 sports articles ever for a college newspaper to appearing on a national television show I'd say that's a pretty good deal.
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Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: marty (---.nycap.res.rr.com)
Date: April 09, 2012 11:07PM
css228
Yes. And UAH beat Denver at Denver. So obviously they should be at 12!Ronald '09
jtn27
RichH
Thanks to a good showing in the NCAAs, we finish 2012 in the Top Ten.
1 Boston College (50) 33-10-1 1000 1 2 Ferris State 26-12-5 939 9 3 Union 26- 8-7 871 3 4 Minnesota 28-14-1 857 6 5 North Dakota 26-13-3 748 4 6 Minnesota-Duluth 25-10-6 739 5 7 Michigan 24-13-4 702 2 8 Miami 24-15-2 545 7 9 Massachusetts-Lowell 24-13-1 537 13 10 Cornell 19- 9-7 529 14 11 Boston University 23-15-1 518 8 12 Denver 25-14-4 510 10 13 Maine 23-14-3 483 11 14 Western Michigan 21-14-6 423 12 15 Michigan State 19-16-4 271 15 16 Air Force 21-11-7 246 16 17 Merrimack 18-12-7 192 17 18 Harvard 13-10-11 133 18 19 Notre Dame 19-18-3 100 19 20 Northern Michigan 17-14-6 82 20 Others receiving votes: Colorado College 23, St. Cloud State 14, Ohio State 11, Colgate 9, Quinnipiac 8, Bowling Green 5, Lake Superior 2, Niagara 1, Providence 1, Rochester Institute of Technology 1.
We beat Michigan. We should be ahead of them. And Miami lost in the first round. We should be ahead of them too.
RPI beat us. So did UMass. So did Brown. Should those teams be ahead of us?
...and I'm My Own Grandpa
Re: Final 2012 Poll
Posted by: billhoward (---.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)
Date: April 10, 2012 08:58PM
Nothing wrong with a post-season poll. Starts to build interest for next year.
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