Cornell 3 Brown 2 (FINAL!!!)

so much for 2 majors..

Both our penalties killed.

Brown 5 min major still in effect.

Second period ends...CU up 2-1

yep yep

oh if we just had the power play from a few yrs ago. maybe we need to recruit 2-3 kids who only can play power play... with 10-15 chances a game we never play even strength anyway..

End of 2. Still 2-1 Cornell.

The Cornell crowd sounds good. Kudos to the people who made the trip.

Underway again....

LGR!

how long will it take these "smart" ivy kids to learn to not take penalties.. and most of them dont even involve the puck..

CRAP!

Tied game

Tied at 2

GOAL!!!

Cornell 3
Brown 2

score...heck yea

Cornell goal

Now 3-2 Red.

Barlow - GOAL

in other news...yale now up 2-1 on 'gate with ~15:00 to go in the 3rd

Brown penalty and te announcer ranting.

Cornell PP

cornell pp

So, why can't we have a power play, without nearly immediately going into the box ourselves?

Sigh, we're officially 1-10 on PP so far, and decided that 4x4 was better than 5x4 apparently.

Oh, nevermind, "too many men" against Brown... so 4x3 (CU) 16 sec, then 49 sec of 4x4, then 5x4 CU for 55 sec or so.

Sawada out of the box and Krantz goes right in.

Careful don't hit him...It might be a penalty.

Priceless.

WHCU announcers saying that the penalties, despite the great number of them are "not completely unreasonable". Meaning, as far as I understood them, that at least there was contact on the penalties (not necessarily a lot of contact, but contact).

On an aside, I can't remember many games with 5 minute majors not related to fighting. Certainly, I can't remember very many with 2 majors not fighting related.

Cornell on PP # 12.

at this point how can either team complain.. more than enough time to stop making the mistake of contact away from the puck..

And a Cornell Penalty
And another one on Brown

Matching minors (Nash-hooking, Rue-diving).

So, still 5x4 CU

How much time is left?

8:00 left

6 and a half minutes left

5:30 left

The Brown announcer is having a nervous break down. It's fun to listen to him rant.

Another Brown PP. The Brown announcer even said it was a lousy call.

WHOA thats 90 penalty minutes called so far

who are the reffs?

2:43 left

Riley appears to be the one calling all the penalties.

final score from new haven....yale 2 - colgate 1. they are really proving themselves worthy, albeit very early in the season.

2:30 left

who are the reff?

1:09 left. Brown on the PP.

yeehaw...game over we win

Cornell wins

Can't say it was a good night for us though.

3-2 final. lucky we didn't lose by the hand of the reffs

Winning on the road equals a good night.

Any update on the Yale/'gate game??

Yale won, 2-1.

yale-2
Gate-1

who were the reffs?

mhand06
who were the reffs?

Hansen, Scott was the ref.
[www.collegehockeystats.net]

So far...

Cornell defeats Brown 3-2
Yale defeats Colgate 2-1
Clarkson beats sucks 5-2
Q defeats union 8-2
SLUts beat dartmouth 2-1 OT
RPI eeks by princeton 4-3 OT

Admittedly, I only started listening from the middle of the second period...and the feed was off almost as much as it was on, but I loved it. Yes, he was a homer, but he was passionate, and he was really creative in ripping the ref. I especially liked the post-game summary slamming the ref for ruining the game, and telling the ECAC to listen to the game and never let the guy work another game again.

Chris '03

mhand06
who were the reffs?

Hansen, Scott was the ref.
[www.collegehockeystats.net]

hahaha

is anyone suprised by this?

Did anyone pik up scorers and/or assists?

I stopped understanding the feed somewhere around the 2nd period.

evilnaturedrobot

Chris '03

mhand06
who were the reffs?

Hansen, Scott was the ref.
[www.collegehockeystats.net]

hahaha

is anyone suprised by this?

Surprised that Mr, Salt Lake City Olympics did the Yale/gate game? No... but I hadn't given it any thought.

scannon
Did anyone pik up scorers and/or assists?

I stopped understanding the feed somewhere around the 2nd period.

Box here.

Evan Barlow (1) (Doug Krantz)
Raymond Sawada (1) (Mark McCutcheon)
Evan Barlow (2) (Doug Krantz, Tony Romano)

i believe it was Barlow, McCutcheon, Barlow with the goals

Apparently the Bruno penalty at the end was 5&10 for butt-ending. 99 PIMs all tolled. [www.collegehockeystats.net]

Two weird things:
1. the Bitz double minor was for holding and checking from behind?
2. Check out the second linesman's name.

I feel bad for Brown's Todd Johnson, who spent 12 minutes in the penalty box and didn't commit a penalty in the game (he served two of the three Brown majors and the Brown too many men on the ice).

Just got home from the game... I dont know how it came across on the radio, but the officiating was simply horrendous. Words cannot describe its suckitude sufficiently. After a fairly quiet 1st period (just the single major that was important) I was going to say that I was suprised how penalty free the game was shaping up and then the 2nd and 3rd were almost a non-stop penalty fest. The double minor was particularly silly and Cornell losing half of the major to a 4-3 man down with two almost simultaneous minors was equally as bad.

those coaches were probably fighting each other to have first shot at the officiating crew, Cornell was lucky to come away with the win. these are the wons though that come March might be the difference in getting a decent seed and a bye and being on the bubble and on the road for the playoffs, I will take it.

Brown really impressed me on their PP, very crisp passing... either our PK was equally good or they just cant shoot. Our goalie came up big at several times in the waning minutes (in no small part due to some weak calls putting Brown on the PP)

Although disappointed in the quality of play and chemistry, it is early in the season and they didnt play much 5v5... I think the coaching staff will have things in good shape by the Florida tournament and this team could do some damage in the ECAC tournament barring injury... Harvard's slow start must be encouraging, although the Q's ability to put up 8 goals should raise soem eyebrows

nshapiro
Admittedly, I only started listening from the middle of the second period...and the feed was off almost as much as it was on, but I loved it. Yes, he was a homer, but he was passionate, and he was really creative in ripping the ref. I especially liked the post-game summary slamming the ref for ruining the game, and telling the ECAC to listen to the game and never let the guy work another game again.

Yeah...but those Brown radio guys say that exact thing every game I've ever had to listen to them. I'm not exaggerating...every game I've heard them do, they call for a tape of the game to be sent to the league office so the refs can get the firing they deserve. Another favorite is challenging the officials to take off the zebra jersey to show off the Cornell jersey and pom-poms they're obviously wearing underneath. I've grown to accept that they don't know a flying flip about hockey, and think that screaming bloody murder every time a Brown player is touched is part of the attraction. I'm sure it's entertaining when listening to a game you don't care about. Anyway...laughable homers.

I had a fun time at the game...the CU crowd probably sounded good for several reasons: 1) we were huge. 2) they moved the visitors section and GA to the side with the press box. I'm sure we were right beneath the broadcast mic.

All-in-all, an abnormal Meehan experience: no little kids came over to bug us, both bands were on the same side of the ice, and the "Cornell-Brown annual Melee at Meehan sponsored by Roger Grillo" never happened. No fisticuffs or cheap shots (other than the butt-ending at the final buzzer) to speak of. Probably the cleanest game I've seen at Brown.

It's late, so I'll get to my thoughts on the game play and officiating tomorrow. Feels good to be back in hockey mode!

Schafer is now 18-2-3 lifetime in RS games against Brown.

RichH
Yeah...but those Brown radio guys say that exact thing every game I've ever had to listen to them. I'm not exaggerating...every game I've heard them do, they call for a tape of the game to be sent to the league office so the refs can get the firing they deserve.

You're absolutely right there. The first couple times I heard them call a game it was kind of amusing. Now their shtick is just boring. I'm surprised even home fans can stand to listen to that game after game. At least this year they were going on about how the ECAC instructed the refs to make sure Cornell won which they've done in the past.

RichH
I had a fun time at the game...the CU crowd probably sounded good for several reasons: 1) we were huge. 2) they moved the visitors section and GA to the side with the press box. I'm sure we were right beneath the broadcast mic.

You all sounded great on the Cornell feed. The Brown guys sounded like they were broadcasting from inside a refrigerator with the door closed. For awhile I was listening to both feeds simultaneously and the difference was pronounced. No idea why though.

evilnaturedrobot

Chris '03

mhand06
who were the reffs?

Hansen, Scott was the ref.
[www.collegehockeystats.net]

hahaha

is anyone suprised by this?

I'm lost!?!

Surprised that Hansen still has a job?
Surprised that collegehockeystats has the box?
Surprised that Colgate and Yale have proven the relative usefulness of the preseason polls?

Are you sure about Hasen? USCHO has it different.

[www.uscho.com]


Granted whoever it was was terrible...but let's give criticism where it's due

So at times we all have Red tinted glasses on, but that officiating was hands down the worst preformance ever. No flow what so ever in the game. If one team was called for an infraction it was almost a garauntee that the other was getting whistled within 30 seconds. To Riley's credit, he called it both ways
However, some of the penalties were going too far. The hooking/diving should've been one way or the other, Bitz's first of the double minor penalties was a clean check, the second I can agree with, and Krantz's shoulder on the near breakaway was a clean play as well. A lot of Brown's penalties came behind the play so I didn't really see whether or not they were legit.

What it amounted to was a pretty ugly game. Like I said, there was no flow at all and I can't remember a single good body check. The players were afraid to be physical at all, and it was leading to a lot of frustration by both sides.

As for the game, Cornell looked good off the rush, but that led to a lot of Brown rushes back the other way. PP looked pretty ugly too, as well as our man down line changing. There were at least two near breaks because of sloppy line changing. Easily the number one star for Cornell was Troy Davenport. He made save after save when Cornell needed it, and these weren't your lazy point shots either. There were a lot of in close, quality scoring chances that Troy was able to keep from the back of the net. He is the number one reason they were able to win that game last night.

The WHCU announcers called him "Riley" all night, also, so that is probably who it was. Can't recall having seen him officiate before.

Jeez. I do miss the days of names on the back of ref jerseys. Made it easier for those of us with no ability to pair names and faces.

There is a level of penalty calling that lends itself to clean, but fast, relatively unimpeded games. Refs seem to have trouble finding that level and either call every little thing (thus bogging the game down and making play stilted and awkward), or they call nothing and the play gets uglier and uglier, people get hurt and fights break out. There are, of course, combinations of this style...the most common being: call nothing, suddenly notice that things are getting vicious, then suddenly clamp down for a little bit calling every touch. Incredibly difficult for the players to adjust.

I only listened to the Brown game (didn't see it with my own two eyes), but the impression I got was that it was called fairly, but way too tightly.

CK

BigRedIslander '03
Are you sure about Hasen? USCHO has it different.

[www.uscho.com]


Granted whoever it was was terrible...but let's give criticism where it's due

The person asking was askinag about the Cornell/Brown game. The person who answered answered about the Yale/Colgate game, as you can see from their link.